Booing

[bol-uk]

We have 11 players not just one and its not like its one off poor performance. They dont come out looking like they are up for a battle.

Yes, their confidence is shot, from bad management, they are terrified of the ball and making mistakes, Booing only adds to the nerves.

 

[Darren Higgs]

Yes, their confidence is shot, from bad management, they are terrified of the ball and making mistakes, Booing only adds to the nerves.

Well they can be victims or they can show some bottle. If they are victims and to scared they arent cut out for the job.

 

[bol-uk]

Well they can be victims or they can show some bottle. If they are victims and to scared they arent cut out for the job.

So it is just a coincidence that we sign good players and within a few months they are all quivering wrecks, scared of the ball cos they know one bad touch and they get grief.

Is it any wonder they don't want the ball or try anything with it?

 

[bobafro]

Well the ball IS going sideways and backwards now, and that's without the plays being booed at all.

Is booing going to stop the one in ten passes that go forward at the moment? I can't see it making out appalling play even worse. We've reached rock bottom, so either they get booed and they continue being just as bad, or it makes them take that chance on a forwards pass and it pays off.

Yes, I know the ball is going sideways and backwards at the minute - the team looks like it has absolutely zero confidence.

I completely understand the frustration - I've been so bloody dejected watching us play this season and I'm not for one second blaming the fans for our poor performance nor am I suggesting that all the fans need to do is support the team and our woes will disappear.

The only point I was making is that I don't see how giving players grief during a match can help (as I said before - have no issue with half time/full time boos or whatever people are into). For sure, some players react well to this... but honestly, at the moment it doesn't look like our team is full of these type of players.

Also not saying that giving players grief is going to stop the "one in ten" passes going forward but it just adds uncertainty. Then you get player trying the risky ball forward when they shouldn't and passing it backwards when it should be going forwards.

I know you're saying that you think the crowd reaction can have an affect on the players so this isn't directed at you - but I really don't understand this idea that it doesn't affect players at all. Everyone accepts that a positive atmosphere and support can seep through to the players - the proverbial 12th man... but then people argue that the opposite isn't true, it's a bit mad really.

Anyway, I get your point of view and you could easily be right and I could be dead wrong - we're just sharing opinions here... I'm just at a loss as to why we are playing so much within ourselves. It seems to me like it has to be a mental/psychologial thing... and if that's the case - I just don't see how getting on the players backs is going to help anything.

Regardless, we all want the same thing here - Everton to improve.
Hopefully we'll see this.

 

[ClausThomsen]

My wife is also a nurse and it’s a totally different thing.
I’m talking about 20,000 people calling you sh1t or whatever. To think it does not effect your game is just daft.

20,000 people do not do this at Goodison. If Goodison was so vocal and jeering a poor pass was so devastating to a player then home advantage would be a guaranteed 3 points.

 

[ricer10]

While I'm sure the booing doesn't help ....these are professional athletes presumably at the top of their sport. They have played at a high level for an extended period of time in all sorts of situations. Crowd showing displeasure at substandard effort destroys their confidence ? No way !
Schneiderlein surely doesn't appear to be lacking confidence or smugness ..... just ability and effort !

 

[Gareth Gibson]

As we saw on Wednesday night, when we get behind our players they invariably perform better.

 

[Yank]

Player has bad game, fans tear into him, he lacks confidence and it continues. Does not do any good.

So then you coddle him? And tell him, it will get better?

They're soft. I want my professional athletes to be arrogant and not give a bleep what anyone thinks. Getting booed should be motivation, it shouldn't make you shrivel up like a snail. It's ridiculous. If I boo a guy, he flips me off, then scores a game winner, and flips me off again. I'd give him props, maybe I'm just weird. But this whole "you'll get him next time Klassen (or insert name here)" isn't for me

 

[gonetomorrow]

Booing is bad. It doesn't help. The players know when they've done poorly.

We should confine our booing to these boards only .

Booooooooooooooooooo..............

 

[bol-uk]

So then you coddle him? And tell him, it will get better?

They're soft. I want my professional athletes to be arrogant and not give a bleep what anyone thinks. Getting booed should be motivation, it shouldn't make you shrivel up like a snail. It's ridiculous. If I boo a guy, he flips me off, then scores a game winner, and flips me off again. I'd give him props, maybe I'm just weird. But this whole "you'll get him next time Klassen (or insert name here)" isn't for me

WOW! I hope you do not have kids cos that is not the way to go about nurturing decent people. We are all human and have frailties,not all of us respond well to criticism or negativity. By your logic, someone having a bad time deserves to be abused. Very strange and quite sad.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Booing is the counterpoint of cheering. When you have a crowd who can’t be bothered to show their dismay at continuing poor performances then they won’t be over effusive with their praise either.
It is evidence of a deep emotional attachment, and you can’t enjoy the praise without, occasionally, experiencing the criticism.
The alternative is a disassociated crowd who don’t particularly care either way.

 

[bol-uk]

Booing is the counterpoint of cheering. When you have a crowd who can’t be bothered to show their dismay at continuing poor performances then they won’t be over effusive with their praise either.
It is evidence of a deep emotional attachment, and you can’t enjoy the praise without, occasionally, experiencing the criticism.
The alternative is a disassociated crowd who don’t particularly care either way.

Our fans do it relentlessly, Williams only has to look at the ball and he gets grief.

Also, it is not as simple as you make out,it is is a disease at our club, some fans cannot wait to boo, or just generally hurl abuse, it really looks like they think it makes them look cool.

Interestingly, it never happens at rugby, they have passionate fans too but they have a level of respect.

 

[goodisonopheliac]

So then you coddle him? And tell him, it will get better?

They're soft. I want my professional athletes to be arrogant and not give a bleep what anyone thinks. Getting booed should be motivation, it shouldn't make you shrivel up like a snail. It's ridiculous. If I boo a guy, he flips me off, then scores a game winner, and flips me off again. I'd give him props, maybe I'm just weird. But this whole "you'll get him next time Klassen (or insert name here)" isn't for me

Oumar Niasse is your man.

 

[Death]

If you take the ooing from booing and replace it with lue it's very clear to see that I'm in a very unhappy relationship and are staying for the kid.

 

[Loadsofchemistry]

The last time there was booing at goodison was at full time at the West Brom game. Totally deserved and totally expected. All this “dosnt help anyone” nonsense is half the problem. The players need to know that heartless ambitionless bottle job performances like that aren’t acceptable at Everton and never will be. I’m not advocating crucifying them after every poor result but if the players arnt going to have the decency to look interested for 90 minutes the fans who have sat right through it and will be there long after the players have gone have every right to react how they want.