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Verbal Kint
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The Esk
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bluejohn66
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Good work there Paul 
Steven Verhoeven
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Myths and legends – A look at Everton, Bill Kenwright and the fans who want him out
MAY 20, 1995. Dave Watson is climbing the Wembley steps, surrounded by a sea of Blue delirium.
By Paul Brown / Published 18th August 2015
7
Standing on a seat to his left is a young fan, smiling gleefully and holding his scarf upside down.
Big Dave catches sight of him for an instant and laughs. He’s about to lift the FA Cup after beating Manchester United.
There are few better feelings, for Everton player or supporter.
Neither dreamed that day it would be the last time (to date) the club would lift a trophy.
Watson, of course, is no longer playing. But the fan is still a fan. It was me.
Watching your team go 20 years without silverware hurts. It’s why Everton fans clubbed together to fly a plane over St Mary’s last weekend calling for the board to resign.
Manchester City visit Goodison Park.
So what is wrong at Everton? The simple answer is – money. It tends to talk in football these days. Look at last season’s top four.
Disgruntled Evertonians point to the fact the club has been in the Premier League since it started, and received mind-boggling sums in TV rights.
They ask where that money has gone. But the answer to that is simple – into the pockets of the players.
Romelu Lukaku.
Does that make Everton “poorly run”? It depends on your point of view. When you have the ninth-highest wage bill in the league, you have no right to finish higher than ninth.
Yet Everton have consistently finished higher than that – higher in fact than far richer clubs, including Liverpool and Manchester United in recent seasons.
Digsby
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PROTEST: Some Everton fans made their feeling known at the weekend
For some fans, finishing fifth or sixth or seventh isn’t good enough. They want trophies.
But here’s the problem with modern football. Trophies don’t mean what they used to. There isn’t a single club whose main goal at the start of the season is to win the FA Cup.
The top clubs want to finish in the top four. The rest just want to stay up.
If you can’t win the league or the Champions League, anything else is a consolation prize.
What did winning the FA Cup do for Wigan, or Portsmouth, the only two other clubs outside of the top four or five richest in the land to do it in the Premier League era?
Football has changed, and it has changed because of the riches on offer from staying in the Premier League.
It’s why qualifying for the Champions League is simply a bigger prize than lifting a cup at Wembley.
Some fans will never understand this. But it is a fact.
It is also one reason why Bill Kenwright can claim he has been a successful chairman of Everton.
There have been no real relegation battles during his time in charge. Plenty of dicey moments. But no last-day escapes of Mike Walker proportions.
And has there been a bigger achievement in Premier League history than what David Moyes did in 2005?
Having just sold Wayne Rooney, he somehow took a squad scraped together on a shoestring budget all the way into the Champions League. Marcus Bent was the lone striker in that team.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...otest-plane-Southampton-Goodison-Park-Toffees
MAY 20, 1995. Dave Watson is climbing the Wembley steps, surrounded by a sea of Blue delirium.
By Paul Brown / Published 18th August 2015
7
Standing on a seat to his left is a young fan, smiling gleefully and holding his scarf upside down.
Big Dave catches sight of him for an instant and laughs. He’s about to lift the FA Cup after beating Manchester United.
There are few better feelings, for Everton player or supporter.
Neither dreamed that day it would be the last time (to date) the club would lift a trophy.
Watson, of course, is no longer playing. But the fan is still a fan. It was me.
Watching your team go 20 years without silverware hurts. It’s why Everton fans clubbed together to fly a plane over St Mary’s last weekend calling for the board to resign.
Manchester City visit Goodison Park.
So what is wrong at Everton? The simple answer is – money. It tends to talk in football these days. Look at last season’s top four.
Disgruntled Evertonians point to the fact the club has been in the Premier League since it started, and received mind-boggling sums in TV rights.
They ask where that money has gone. But the answer to that is simple – into the pockets of the players.
Romelu Lukaku.
Does that make Everton “poorly run”? It depends on your point of view. When you have the ninth-highest wage bill in the league, you have no right to finish higher than ninth.
Yet Everton have consistently finished higher than that – higher in fact than far richer clubs, including Liverpool and Manchester United in recent seasons.
Digsby
IM, Email, and Social Networks in one easy to use application!
http://kvors.com/click/?s=88377&c=89569&subid=21715
GETTY
PROTEST: Some Everton fans made their feeling known at the weekend
For some fans, finishing fifth or sixth or seventh isn’t good enough. They want trophies.
But here’s the problem with modern football. Trophies don’t mean what they used to. There isn’t a single club whose main goal at the start of the season is to win the FA Cup.
The top clubs want to finish in the top four. The rest just want to stay up.
If you can’t win the league or the Champions League, anything else is a consolation prize.
What did winning the FA Cup do for Wigan, or Portsmouth, the only two other clubs outside of the top four or five richest in the land to do it in the Premier League era?
Football has changed, and it has changed because of the riches on offer from staying in the Premier League.
It’s why qualifying for the Champions League is simply a bigger prize than lifting a cup at Wembley.
Some fans will never understand this. But it is a fact.
It is also one reason why Bill Kenwright can claim he has been a successful chairman of Everton.
There have been no real relegation battles during his time in charge. Plenty of dicey moments. But no last-day escapes of Mike Walker proportions.
And has there been a bigger achievement in Premier League history than what David Moyes did in 2005?
Having just sold Wayne Rooney, he somehow took a squad scraped together on a shoestring budget all the way into the Champions League. Marcus Bent was the lone striker in that team.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...otest-plane-Southampton-Goodison-Park-Toffees
Whistlin' Dixie
Player Valuation: £50m
Myths and legends – A look at Everton, Bill Kenwright and the fans who want him out
MAY 20, 1995. Dave Watson is climbing the Wembley steps, surrounded by a sea of Blue delirium.
By Paul Brown / Published 18th August 2015
7
Standing on a seat to his left is a young fan, smiling gleefully and holding his scarf upside down.
Big Dave catches sight of him for an instant and laughs. He’s about to lift the FA Cup after beating Manchester United.
There are few better feelings, for Everton player or supporter.
Neither dreamed that day it would be the last time (to date) the club would lift a trophy.
Watson, of course, is no longer playing. But the fan is still a fan. It was me.
Watching your team go 20 years without silverware hurts. It’s why Everton fans clubbed together to fly a plane over St Mary’s last weekend calling for the board to resign.
Manchester City visit Goodison Park.
So what is wrong at Everton? The simple answer is – money. It tends to talk in football these days. Look at last season’s top four.
Disgruntled Evertonians point to the fact the club has been in the Premier League since it started, and received mind-boggling sums in TV rights.
They ask where that money has gone. But the answer to that is simple – into the pockets of the players.
Romelu Lukaku.
Does that make Everton “poorly run”? It depends on your point of view. When you have the ninth-highest wage bill in the league, you have no right to finish higher than ninth.
Yet Everton have consistently finished higher than that – higher in fact than far richer clubs, including Liverpool and Manchester United in recent seasons.
Digsby
IM, Email, and Social Networks in one easy to use application!
http://kvors.com/click/?s=88377&c=89569&subid=21715
GETTY
PROTEST: Some Everton fans made their feeling known at the weekend
For some fans, finishing fifth or sixth or seventh isn’t good enough. They want trophies.
But here’s the problem with modern football. Trophies don’t mean what they used to. There isn’t a single club whose main goal at the start of the season is to win the FA Cup.
The top clubs want to finish in the top four. The rest just want to stay up.
If you can’t win the league or the Champions League, anything else is a consolation prize.
What did winning the FA Cup do for Wigan, or Portsmouth, the only two other clubs outside of the top four or five richest in the land to do it in the Premier League era?
Football has changed, and it has changed because of the riches on offer from staying in the Premier League.
It’s why qualifying for the Champions League is simply a bigger prize than lifting a cup at Wembley.
Some fans will never understand this. But it is a fact.
It is also one reason why Bill Kenwright can claim he has been a successful chairman of Everton.
There have been no real relegation battles during his time in charge. Plenty of dicey moments. But no last-day escapes of Mike Walker proportions.
And has there been a bigger achievement in Premier League history than what David Moyes did in 2005?
Having just sold Wayne Rooney, he somehow took a squad scraped together on a shoestring budget all the way into the Champions League. Marcus Bent was the lone striker in that team.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...otest-plane-Southampton-Goodison-Park-Toffees
Don't how how to put all the quotes from that 'article' as quotes - so gonna put them in bold instead, if that's ok?
They ask where that money has gone. But the answer to that is simple – into the pockets of the players.
ALL of it? Are we selling off bellefield & Finch Farm to pay players? 9th biggest wage bill and we're selling off everything to pay player's wages? If we're doing better than 9th place on the 9th biggest wage bill, then that's down to the team management - NOT the board's input.
We do well/satisfactorily/better than the statistics suggest on the pitch DESPITE the board - Not BECAUSE of them.
It stands to reason that we'd do/ would've done FAR BETTER had the board done better in procuring more funds.
What did winning the FA Cup do for Wigan, or Portsmouth, the only two other clubs outside of the top four or five richest in the land to do it in the Premier League era?
Wigan and portsmouth were NEVER established PL sides. Nor were they established old Div.1 sides. Using them two as examples is not representative as evidence the same thing'd happen every time & it's quite frankly, tiresome, as well as pathetic.
Newcastle and city did the drop without winning anything - WHY are they never mentioned? That scenario could be us as much as pompey & wigan.....and it looks more likely, too.
Football has changed, and it has changed because of the riches on offer from staying in the Premier League.
The same riches that are going straight to the player's pockets? Self-defeating argument. 'Blame the players' is that what he's saying? Is he saying that about arsenal, chelsea, the sh1te, united, city, etc?
Nope.
It’s why qualifying for the Champions League is simply a bigger prize than lifting a cup at Wembley.
Some fans will never understand this. But it is a fact.
Oh but we DO understand. We understand that we're not competing in either. We're being hamstrung by the fiscal incompetence/ incapability of the current board. WHY doesn't HE understand that?
It is also one reason why Bill Kenwright can claim he has been a successful chairman of Everton.
And there it is, in all it's glory folks. If that's not 'know your place then I'm a monkey's uncle. 'Success' indeed. Get to phook out of it, bellend.
Having just sold Wayne Rooney, he somehow took a squad scraped together on a shoestring budget all the way into the Champions League. Marcus Bent was the lone striker in that team.
Wrong on two counts. Firstly we didn't qualify for the CL. Second, Duncan Ferguson wasn't a striker in the team that finished 4th, was he?
In essence, to quote Cromwell.....
You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately ... Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!
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Toffeelover
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Just listened to the radio broadcast.Paul was right over our no need to sell Wright is ignorant of BK's history as chairman. If Stones was sold it would not be enough anyway as capital to put into the club because some goes to Barnsley and Stones has to be replaced so Wright is wrong it, we need far more capital than that which would be produced from selling Stones.
Paul's conversation with Ian Wright was good listening and I agree with everything Paul said. But there was a point that Ian Wright could also have made that is - what if, in the next 2 or 3 years the likes of Barkley and Stones develop so well that their ambitions (CL football) winners medals etc can't be fulfilled by us (and oh how I wish we could give them tjat)? That is another reason why one or more of our players might leave and in those situations the player, usually, gets his wish. So, in short, if Stones makes a request to leave, we'll be hard pressed to keep him regardless of thelack of a 'requirement to sell'. Incidentally, just to be clear, no way to I want Stones to leave Everton.
Deggo
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I would say what Paul said covers that,he said we don't need to sell,those players have not asked to leave,if we got capital invested into the club we'd be more competitive and those players may achieve those ambitions
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