Bill Kenwright

[Gwladysstreetlad]

What sort of nutter chairman puts a pic of himself on the wall of a club that talks about big moments in its history! Even if he'd been the greatest chairman ever who's overseen nothing but success it would still be bizarre AF. Its just not normal behaviour and the fact that some people can't see that is even more mental. Most fanbases (other then the most hardcore section) probably couldn't even tell you who their chairman is! Everyone knew it with us though because Kenwright made sure they did. Its absolutely insane how he managed to take an abject failure and outright theft from this club and spin it as a positive and the fact that even now there's a section of the fans who would defend him only prove Pavlov's dog theory to be correct.

 

[TrixyStevens]

What sort of nutter chairman puts a pic of himself on the wall of a club that talks about big moments in its history! Even if he'd been the greatest chairman ever who's overseen nothing but success it would still be bizarre AF. Its just not normal behaviour and the fact that some people can't see that is even more mental. Most fanbases (other then the most hardcore section) probably couldn't even tell you who their chairman is! Everyone knew it with us though because Kenwright made sure they did. Its absolutely insane how he managed to take an abject failure and outright theft from this club and spin it as a positive and the fact that even now there's a section of the fans who would defend him only prove Pavlov's dog theory to be correct.

If he could have sucked himself off he would have. The man’s ego was out of control. A bad stain on our history and we’ll be lucky to come out the other side of these next few months still intact.

 

[Ferguson1878]

What sort of nutter chairman puts a pic of himself on the wall of a club that talks about big moments in its history! Even if he'd been the greatest chairman ever who's overseen nothing but success it would still be bizarre AF. Its just not normal behaviour and the fact that some people can't see that is even more mental. Most fanbases (other then the most hardcore section) probably couldn't even tell you who their chairman is! Everyone knew it with us though because Kenwright made sure they did. Its absolutely insane how he managed to take an abject failure and outright theft from this club and spin it as a positive and the fact that even now there's a section of the fans who would defend him only prove Pavlov's dog theory to be correct.

Even the way he turned down millions just to stay in charge for years, I’d like to own Everton but I’d rather av millions in the bank instead

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Even the way he turned down millions just to stay in charge for years, I’d like to own Everton but I’d rather av millions in the bank instead

Oh rest assured mate. He made millions from this club. He asset stripped us down to the bones and would've sold everything that wasn't nailed down if he could've. Then he went looking for a patsy that he found in Moshiri. He had the best of both. Big money in the bank with loads more on the horrrizon and all the power he wanted under the most incompetent "boss" to ever breathe air.

 

[BNJ1878]

Wont go along with the usual praise of Walter Smith on this forum, the man knew exactly what he was doing when he recommended Moyes, and the Glasgow mafia was well in place to get Rooney out of Everton. Smith great friends with SAF and great friends with Rooney parents, SAF good friends with Moyes dad, Moyes gets planted into Everton and his first job from his master SAF is to upset Rooney, Smith uses his severance pay to buy shares in Paul Stretford sports company, SAF gives Smith a short term coaching job at Man Utd, Rooney gets his move to Man Utd, Fergie gets the player he has been after since age 14, and then Moyes gets his reward 10 years later when SAF recommended him to Man Utd board. Sure is a man of integrity was that Walter Smith, and Kenwright got fooled hook line and sinker to bring in Moyes, SAF little puppet.

 

[Yarrgh]

Walter Smith era was as dull as ditch water. I never doubted his integrity though ... until now!

The fact that he was now in the Glasgow Mafia has made him infinitely more interesting.

Looking forward to hearing about him, Sir Alex and Moyes doing a royal mail or train heist. Deffo old school gangsters.

 

[Johnny Barton]

That's quite the conspiracy theory there mate. Maybe yourself and Jim Corr should meet up for a chat sometime. I'm sure it would be a very stimulating conversation. Kenwright like he did with whatever asset we had, was flogging Rooney off to the highest bidder regardless.

Were is the conspiracy, it was all all clear as daylight, nothing but facts in my comments.
SAF had been trying to get Rooney out of Everton since aged 12 = Fact
SAF wanted Moyes as his right hand man before McClaren but Moyes wanted to stay in Club Management = Fact
SAF and Walter Smith been close colleagues for years, even Managed Scotland national team together = Fact
Walter Smith recommends Moyes as next manager after discussions with SAF =Fact
Smith on good terms with Rooney parents at this stage = Fact
Moyes joins Everton and within weeks is falling out, upsetting and unsettling Rooney = Fact
Smith gets role as temporary coach at Man Utd.
Smith uses severance pay received from Everton to buy stake in Paul Stretford sports agency = Fact
Rooney eventually leaves and ends up were, Man U = Fact
Everton virtually get no money for Rooney, as every transfer window Moyes agrees to take rejects like Neville, Saha, Howard, Gibson as all part of the deal = Fact
10 years later, Moyes gets the job he was promised 10 years earlier when he is recommended to Man U board = Fact.
Rooney said last year he wasnt ready to leave at the time but was made to feel unwanted = Fact

A true story, full of true Facts, no conspiracy theories at all.
Anyone who couldnt see it must have been living on the moon

 

[willo30]

Were is the conspiracy, it was all all clear as daylight, nothing but facts in my comments.
SAF had been trying to get Rooney out of Everton since aged 12 = Fact
SAF wanted Moyes as his right hand man before McClaren but Moyes wanted to stay in Club Management = Fact
SAF and Walter Smith been close colleagues for years, even Managed Scotland national team together = Fact
Walter Smith recommends Moyes as next manager after discussions with SAF =Fact
Smith on good terms with Rooney parents at this stage = Fact
Moyes joins Everton and within weeks is falling out, upsetting and unsettling Rooney = Fact
Smith gets role as temporary coach at Man Utd.
Smith uses severance pay received from Everton to buy stake in Paul Stretford sports agency = Fact
Rooney eventually leaves and ends up were, Man U = Fact
Everton virtually get no money for Rooney, as every transfer window Moyes agrees to take rejects like Neville, Saha, Howard, Gibson as all part of the deal = Fact
10 years later, Moyes gets the job he was promised 10 years earlier when he is recommended to Man U board = Fact.
Rooney said last year he wasnt ready to leave at the time but was made to feel unwanted = Fact

A true story, full of true Facts, no conspiracy theories at all.
Anyone who couldnt see it must have been living on the moon

Alan Stubbs (who hid Rooney is his boot) played for Celtic (a team in Glasgow) = FACT

 

[Johnny Barton]

Kenwright could have held out for a cash only deal for Rooney from other clubs but didnt, Rooney was gathering interested from other clubs, Kenwright should have stook to his guns

 

[Johnny Barton]

Stubbs

Alan Stubbs (who hid Rooney is his boot) played for Celtic (a team in Glasgow) = FACT

You failed to mention he also gave Rooney a lift every day when he couldnt drive, also made a load of money off the bookies when Rooney went to Man U = FACT
Another one who people on these pages say he should be given a job at Everton, man of integrity etc...

 

[BNJ1878]

SAF had been trying to get Rooney out of Everton since aged 12 = Fact

He wasn't the only one. Not sure about 12 but his talent by 14 was hardly a secret.

SAF wanted Moyes as his right hand man before McClaren but Moyes wanted to stay in Club Management = Fact

Maybe. To claim FACT doesn't make it so.

SAF and Walter Smith been close colleagues for years, even Managed Scotland national team together = Fact

Fact

Walter Smith recommends Moyes as next manager after discussions with SAF =Fact

Says you. How do you know Smith and Ferguson colluded on this?

Smith on good terms with Rooney parents at this stage = Fact

I'm sure he was on good terms with a few academy players parents. He seemed to be a thoroughly decent fella.

Moyes joins Everton and within weeks is falling out, upsetting and unsettling Rooney = Fact

Within weeks? I'd check your diary on that one fella.

Smith gets role as temporary coach at Man Utd.

Irrelevant.

Smith uses severance pay received from Everton to buy stake in Paul Stretford sports agency = Fact

So he worked for free before Everton? That's nice of him.

Rooney eventually leaves and ends up were, Man U = Fact

Because thats where he wanted to go after Kenwright tried sending him to Chelsea.

Everton virtually get no money for Rooney, as every transfer window Moyes agrees to take rejects like Neville, Saha, Howard, Gibson as all part of the deal = Fact

Everton got no money for Rooney because Kenwright was a crap negotiator. It's nothing at all to do with some imaginary Glasgow mafia. Hang on. Are you @davek ?

10 years later, Moyes gets the job he was promised 10 years earlier when he is recommended to Man U board = Fact.

Promised when he supposedly forced Rooney into Fergusons arms at the behest if this Glasgow Mafia? The most successful manager in English football promised a job to an untried manager who'd achieved next to nothing, and still hasn't. Right. Makes perfect sense.

Rooney said last year he wasnt ready to leave at the time but was made to feel unwanted = Fact

Yes. The club tried flogging him because BK was desperate for cash to cling on. The deal was agreed with Chelsea and Rooney refused.

Again nothing to do with your convaluted tale.

Fact.

A true story, full of true Facts, no conspiracy theories at all.

No, full of things you claim as fact. 1, maybe 2, I'll grant you. The rest are what you believe.

Anyone who couldnt see it must have been living on the moon

I was living in the moon but had to move because you howling at it was driving me nuts.

 

[Jacko93]

Were is the conspiracy, it was all all clear as daylight, nothing but facts in my comments.
SAF had been trying to get Rooney out of Everton since aged 12 = Fact
SAF wanted Moyes as his right hand man before McClaren but Moyes wanted to stay in Club Management = Fact
SAF and Walter Smith been close colleagues for years, even Managed Scotland national team together = Fact
Walter Smith recommends Moyes as next manager after discussions with SAF =Fact
Smith on good terms with Rooney parents at this stage = Fact
Moyes joins Everton and within weeks is falling out, upsetting and unsettling Rooney = Fact
Smith gets role as temporary coach at Man Utd.
Smith uses severance pay received from Everton to buy stake in Paul Stretford sports agency = Fact
Rooney eventually leaves and ends up were, Man U = Fact
Everton virtually get no money for Rooney, as every transfer window Moyes agrees to take rejects like Neville, Saha, Howard, Gibson as all part of the deal = Fact
10 years later, Moyes gets the job he was promised 10 years earlier when he is recommended to Man U board = Fact.
Rooney said last year he wasnt ready to leave at the time but was made to feel unwanted = Fact

A true story, full of true Facts, no conspiracy theories at all.
Anyone who couldnt see it must have been living on the moon

Are you saying that it is a fact that Moyes was promised the Man United job 10 years before he got it? I bet he was fuming when Ferguson retired, Moyes got prepared to say his goodbyes to move across, then Ferguson U-Turned.

 

[Johnny Barton]

Are you saying that it is a fact that Moyes was promised the Man United job 10 years before he got it? I bet he was fuming when Ferguson retired, Moyes got prepared to say his goodbyes to move across, then Ferguson U-Turned.

You talk as if they were complete strangers to each other for those years.
Strange how Moyes, who lived in Preston and was still Everton manager at the time, just happened to be shopping in Cheshire, when he got a phone call from Ferguson, asking him to come and see him at his house to offer him the job, and Moyes knew exactly were he lived.

 

[BNJ1878]

You talk as if they were complete strangers to each other for those years.
Strange how Moyes, who lived in Preston and was still Everton manager at the time, just happened to be shopping in Cheshire, when he got a phone call from Ferguson, asking him to come and see him at his house to offer him the job, and Moyes knew exactly were he lived.

Have you been shopping in Preston?

It's no wonder he went to opulent Cheshire to treat his wife now and again.

Also, as you've already pointed out. They're both from Glasgow. They're both working in the same (small) industry. Is it really a stretch to imagine they were it just friends anyway and knowing where the other lived isn't a massive shock? Maybe the wives were friends too.

You're obviously convinced it was all some slow burning scheme. If that makes you happy that's fine.

I think it makes you sound deranged.

 

[Ferguson1878]

Oh rest assured mate. He made millions from this club. He asset stripped us down to the bones and would've sold everything that wasn't nailed down if he could've. Then he went looking for a patsy that he found in Moshiri. He had the best of both. Big money in the bank with loads more on the horrrizon and all the power he wanted under the most incompetent "boss" to ever breathe air.

Were is the conspiracy, it was all all clear as daylight, nothing but facts in my comments.
SAF had been trying to get Rooney out of Everton since aged 12 = Fact
SAF wanted Moyes as his right hand man before McClaren but Moyes wanted to stay in Club Management = Fact
SAF and Walter Smith been close colleagues for years, even Managed Scotland national team together = Fact
Walter Smith recommends Moyes as next manager after discussions with SAF =Fact
Smith on good terms with Rooney parents at this stage = Fact
Moyes joins Everton and within weeks is falling out, upsetting and unsettling Rooney = Fact
Smith gets role as temporary coach at Man Utd.
Smith uses severance pay received from Everton to buy stake in Paul Stretford sports agency = Fact
Rooney eventually leaves and ends up were, Man U = Fact
Everton virtually get no money for Rooney, as every transfer window Moyes agrees to take rejects like Neville, Saha, Howard, Gibson as all part of the deal = Fact
10 years later, Moyes gets the job he was promised 10 years earlier when he is recommended to Man U board = Fact.
Rooney said last year he wasnt ready to leave at the time but was made to feel unwanted = Fact

A true story, full of true Facts, no conspiracy theories at all.
Anyone who couldnt see it must have been living on the moon

Doubt they’d have to go threw all that mate to sign Rooney