Big Vic Anichebe

[Bruce Wayne]

Whilst I'm not his greatest fan I think it would be daft to sell him, for a number of reasons.

1. He's only young so whilst it's clear that he is very much a rough diamond at the moment there has to be the chance that he will improve. Physically he is a handful and that will always be useful. If he can smooth out his edges then he could become a much bigger threat.

2. What is the need to sell him? I don't think we're especially hard up for cash so the short-term gain from selling him versus the potential long-term gain from keeping him and him improving doesn't really constitute just cause for me. If, with Vaughan back from fitness we feel that he's surplus to immediate requirements as potentially 5th choice striker then send him out on loan, let him get some match time to learn his trade.

I think he has a long way to go before he can call himself a serious top flight striker but the way he scared the living daylights out of the Chelsea defence last season underlines the promise he does have so unless there is a serious cash shortage I don't think we should sell him.

 

[monty]

Whilst I'm not his greatest fan I think it would be daft to sell him, for a number of reasons.

1. He's only young so whilst it's clear that he is very much a rough diamond at the moment there has to be the chance that he will improve. Physically he is a handful and that will always be useful. If he can smooth out his edges then he could become a much bigger threat.

2. What is the need to sell him? I don't think we're especially hard up for cash so the short-term gain from selling him versus the potential long-term gain from keeping him and him improving doesn't really constitute just cause for me. If, with Vaughan back from fitness we feel that he's surplus to immediate requirements as potentially 5th choice striker then send him out on loan, let him get some match time to learn his trade.

I think he has a long way to go before he can call himself a serious top flight striker but the way he scared the living daylights out of the Chelsea defence last season underlines the promise he does have so unless there is a serious cash shortage I don't think we should sell him.

Bruce, do you hold up the entire academy for Vic, those other young lads wanting to come through, Skywalker is a better proposition, james is a far better player all round, Vic is in the 'where do I go from here' hole.

Suits, offer = realistic = how well he has advanced at time of sale, simple when you think about it!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Obviously with the number of strikers we have on the books there will come a time when culls will be required but I don't think that time is now. When Vaughan comes back it wouldn't surprise me if both Anichebe and Lukas were sent out on loan. It's clear that reserve team football is a sham and not really fit for anything, least of all furthering the education of young players. Not enough games, not enough intensity in the games that are played.

 

[Neiler]

I thought this may happen at some time as ive said before both vaghan and vic will need another two season to develop consistently into premiership players, the time will come as well when we,re not so happy with Vaghaney. To be honest i like Vic and agree he offers something different. For me he has offers a lot to our play and im not convinced that he doesnt have 12 goals a seaon in him, hes done pretty well in scoring terms for someone whos broke on the scene and started very few games.

I think a fair point is that he seems to start more games then Faddy and hes more expeirenced then Vic internationly and at club level, so the managment team see something in it. With Vic i think the watchword is paitence young Jedi!

 

[monty]

IMO Vic's problem is that I cannot see him getting any better. At times his basic ball control is woeful, Bernie Wright springs (possibly a tad harsh but there you go) to mind. The club cannot afford to wait forever and I suggest that his position is looked at over the next twelve months with the outcome being we will sell him as he is the type of player Championship sides will pay good money for.

 

[a2b chris]

monty, you keep going back to skywalker, but i havnt seen enough of him yet and the manager/coaches see them every day.

you say about vics touch, do you remember me posting about one of our young kids playing aginst him in the summer (player was in my taxi)?
he said ' today, he had the touch of a blind rapist'

when all strikers are fit, i would let him go on loan, but i think he could have a future with us, but needs to working on his control and temperment

keep the faith in moyes

 

[Sim]

While his talent does seem to be limited, he is very effective at his current role; coming on as a sub to change games. But I agree that I dont really see a shinning future for Anichebe at our club.

Any offers of £3M and above I reckon we should consider. But saying that, even if we keep him, as long as his salary isnt too high then he is definitely useful.

 

[Great Dane]

While his talent does seem to be limited, he is very effective at his current role; coming on as a sub to change games. But I agree that I dont really see a shinning future for Anichebe at our club.

Any offers of £3M and above I reckon we should consider. But saying that, even if we keep him, as long as his salary isnt too high then he is definitely useful.

Could'nt agree more with you Sim. Although a good loan move might provide him with the option to develope those skills that are lacking behind.

 

[atrottel]

Loan move, once Vaughn is back, and assuming the BS about AJ going back down south is just that.

I'd like to see him get more "moves" to turn defenders and add a bit of subtlety to his movement around the goal.

 

[Chris]

Should never let this guy leave. He is a great prospect and is not too far off a regular starting berth.
He is head and shoulders above Yakubu in the pecking order if I'm honest.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Should never let this guy leave. He is a great prospect and is not too far off a regular starting berth.
He is head and shoulders above Yakubu in the pecking order if I'm honest.

Oh come on, what a load of rubbish. Yakubu has proven it at the highest level.

Anichebe is a kid who just comes on and jumps into players, gives away fouls, mouth's off to the ref and do you know what has no clue about the passing game. He is very limited in his ability, and that my friend is a fact. He is not aware of where is team mates are.

Moyes plays Yakubu ahead of Anichebe because he knows that Yakubu is a better player then him, and that is also a fact. Why else would he pay 11million quid for him.

I'm getting a bit sick of this. Yakubu has been here 2 minutes and he is getting slagged off, like its the easy option. Why are we so desperate for Anichebe to be a success, I can't wait for him to leave I really can't.

Also be all accounts Agard is a much better striker and that's not to mention Lukas either who is technically better.

I just think we like (we as not including me) the player who is below average in ability but because he jumps into players and is gobby he is celebrated.

Thank god Vaughan is back soon.

 

[Great Dane]

Oh come on, what a load of rubbish. Yakubu has proven it at the highest level.

Anichebe is a kid who just comes on and jumps into players, gives away fouls, mouth's off to the ref and do you know what has no clue about the passing game. He is very limited in his ability, and that my friend is a fact. He is not aware of where is team mates are.

Moyes plays Yakubu ahead of Anichebe because he knows that Yakubu is a better player then him, and that is also a fact. Why else would he pay 11million quid for him.

I'm getting a bit sick of this. Yakubu has been here 2 minutes and he is getting slagged off, like its the easy option. Why are we so desperate for Anichebe to be a success, I can't wait for him to leave I really can't.

Also be all accounts Agard is a much better striker and that's not to mention Lukas either who is technically better.

I just think we like (we as not including me) the player who is below average in ability but because he jumps into players and is gobby he is celebrated.

Thank god Vaughan is back soon.

Tell it like it is Ghosty

If Anichebe was a player at any other club I'd bet the majority of his backers would **** him of as a headless chicken, who constantly moans etc. Don't get me wrong I would love if the kid came through with flying colours - but he won't.

I also agree with you on Yakubu. The only way he would have justified his price is if he had scored in every game he has played so far. Instead we **** him off - give the guy a chance to get to know the others and their way of playing and thinking. Having a limited midfield to provide the ammunition, no wonder he's not been banging them in. No ammo - shot shooting. This guy has been getting goals whereever he has played and he will do so for us.

We all like to see new signings succeed, so the hell are we so hard on them from the beginning.

 

[Robert Jarvis]

We are talking about selling or lending a young player who has still lots too learn and the season is 10 games old. For crying out aloud, January is a way off and furthermore at the moment we need all the players we have got. What happens if Yak gets injured and is out for a couple of month or AJ? Give the kid a chance just like you should give Yak a chance and as for Skywalker, he has not played out there yet and he could turn out ot be another Matthews and I do not Sir Stan. So come on, get behind the players.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Because Evertonians in large are moaning bastards, and they need something to moan at. They are also generally only interested in players who seem to run their arse off and nothing else. Ronaldo doesn't do no tracking back whatsoever, yet he is one of the best players in the world. Owen can vanish for games, yet he scores and that is what he is paid to do.

We are also as a fanbase very fickle, and regardless of the state of the club they always need to have a complaint.

In the 90's it was - we are basically [Poor language removed], sack the board.

Now its we are only 5th, Yakubu is [Poor language removed], Moyes has no tactics, the board are not backing him, blah [Poor language removed] blah.

I for one am ashamed of many Evertonians, and I detach myself from many on this forum. There are also many who I think are the fans we need, the regular posters need not worry so much, although what does my opinion count anyway.

I was disappointed yesterday, but not with the result, but with the way the commentary went. Wish I could get Merseyside on my car but I can't. So I have to put up with Barry "I scored a goal against a keeper who threw the game, and if it wasn't for Joe Parkinson I would have been sold years ago" Horne.

Thanks Great Dane, I will tell it as it is, because even though people may think I am never think I am wrong, well that's because I never do, and if anyone makes an opinion on a forum and think that they are wrong doing it, then why the [Poor language removed] hell make an opinion?

For most of this season I have had to listen to people celebrating a player who has no ability whatsoever. I don't want another Duncan Ferguson, he wasn't that great once the defenders knew how to handle him. I don't want another Andy Gray. I want quality, international class quality. Players who are going to score the goals and not get themselves sent off.

But I will always say it as it is, because I am fervant about my club. But what I will always do is give players the chance to prove themself.

Yakubu has been here for 5 minutes, he has a great track record, so why shouldn't I wait to see how he pans out before I pass judgement? Some people pass judgement before he played a game for us, and now he has scored twice, more than [Poor language removed] AJ has, he is slagged off, yet AJ is still the litle [Poor language removed] gem.

Beattie I backed him up until half way through last season, then I heard what he said to that fan, and I thought you ****, who the [Poor language removed] do you think you are, if your good enough on the training pitch your good enough to play, but you obviously didn't show it, and showed no desire to lose the weight. His comments post move have just highlighted what a **** he is.

If Yakubu doesn't score for the rest of the season and shows no desire on or off the field, then fine, but not yet - he deserves our support.

Anichebe on the other hand just wants to cause a riot and gob off - I don't want that.

Why is **** edited out, yet [Poor language removed] isn't it?

 

[GhostOfDixie]

We are talking about selling or lending a young player who has still lots too learn and the season is 10 games old. For crying out aloud, January is a way off and furthermore at the moment we need all the players we have got. What happens if Yak gets injured and is out for a couple of month or AJ? Give the kid a chance just like you should give Yak a chance and as for Skywalker, he has not played out there yet and he could turn out ot be another Matthews and I do not Sir Stan. So come on, get behind the players.

Well I just don't think he is good enough, and from what I have seen from Lukas I think he is a better player right now. He has better technical ability, good in the air, and isn't a gobby little [Poor language removed].