2020/21 Bernard

Goat · December 22, 2020

TheBigIguana said:
Yeah at this point having him is keeping Gordon out even if it isn't many minutes so it is probably just as well we moved him on.

Problem is his wages do not even come close to matching his ability so we might be stuck.

Oh and @windymiller I was spot on here. Just a reminder.

@windymiller

He wasnt.

TheBigIguana · December 22, 2020

MikelsGoat said:
@windymiller

He wasnt.

View attachment 111906

Haha well sorry I didn't write him off when we signed him and waited until October instead.

Stephenlloyd · December 22, 2020

sdk said:
Partly because he's got a lot of talent on the ball and he's among the more creative squad players; mostly because I like him. I'd like to see him get more time centrally rather than on the wing.

For all his technical ability, he’s week as you know what, slow and hardly scores or assists. Not cut out for this league and is on a huge wage, he hasn’t justified. And it finally looks like Ancelotti has given up on him. Hopefully he’s gone next month.

Titus Bramble · December 22, 2020

Technically he’s good... but he’s too slow, too small and too weak for the Premier League.

He’d do a job for us if we were in Europe I reckon, but if a decent offer comes in for him in January I’d let him go and reinvest

oliverwri · December 22, 2020

Such a bizarre one. Highly rated when we signed him, shows some massive talent here and there, but doesn't seem to be consistent/physical enough to put it all together. Ancelotti just seems so disinterested in him, I'm sure there's a cracking player in there but he's low on the priority list it seems. Should sell in that case, sad because I really like him and hoped he'd nail down a starting spot

Country Mac · December 22, 2020

Think he’s been a bit hard done to tbh. In his only start against United he was one of the only players that had a decent game and he’s been frozen out ever since.

riddick · December 22, 2020

We;ve all(/mostly) seen what he can do on the LW when paired up with Digne. He has more than a few moments of class there. Problem is that Richarlison is a better fit.

It;s a shame because I think he is a really good player just that he he either doesn't have the ability or application to show it to Ancelotti.

Stephenlloyd · December 22, 2020

Country Mac said:
Think he’s been a bit hard done to tbh. In his only start against United he was one of the only players that had a decent game and he’s been frozen out ever since.

But had plenty of chances the previous years

riddick · December 22, 2020

Stephenlloyd said:
But had plenty of chances the previous years

I'm going to be forthcoming and say I don't know if it is due to my dislike of that player but I think Bernard has shown a LOT more in his tenure here than Sigurdsson. Bernard closes down, he tries to get the ball back, etc.

Again, it may be solely down to me just not liking Gylfi at all but I think Bernard has been better objectively minus the goals.

windymiller · December 22, 2020

TheBigIguana said:
Yeah at this point having him is keeping Gordon out even if it isn't many minutes so it is probably just as well we moved him on.

Problem is his wages do not even come close to matching his ability so we might be stuck.

Oh and @windymiller I was spot on here. Just a reminder.

You never miss big Izatek (in your own mind)

windymiller · December 22, 2020

MikelsGoat said:
@windymiller

He wasnt.

View attachment 111906

@TheBigIguana rewrites his personal history more frequently than his Floridian counterpart Donald Trump.

Coggy · December 23, 2020

riddick said:
I'm going to be forthcoming and say I don't know if it is due to my dislike of that player but I think Bernard has shown a LOT more in his tenure here than Sigurdsson. Bernard closes down, he tries to get the ball back, etc.

Again, it may be solely down to me just not liking Gylfi at all but I think Bernard has been better objectively minus the goals.

Agree totally mate

TheBigIguana · December 23, 2020

riddick said:
I'm going to be forthcoming and say I don't know if it is due to my dislike of that player but I think Bernard has shown a LOT more in his tenure here than Sigurdsson. Bernard closes down, he tries to get the ball back, etc.

Again, it may be solely down to me just not liking Gylfi at all but I think Bernard has been better objectively minus the goals.

Bernard runs hard but he's not actually an effective player without the ball.

riddick · December 23, 2020

TheBigIguana said:
Bernard runs hard but he's not actually an effective player without the ball.

He shows himself for the ball constantly and makes pretty good runs that opened it up for Digne consistently. Or if you mean defensively, maybe. I just recall Bernard being pretty tenacious trying to get the ball back.

This may be blinkered but I'm being fully honest saying that as well. I recall him being a LOT better on both sides of the ball than any LW besides Richarlison.

TheBigIguana · December 23, 2020

windymiller said:
You never miss big Izatek (in your own mind)

I've been consistently saying the guy isn't very good for 2 straight years but sure I'm rewriting.

My record of saying Lookman is good is even longer. Also no rewriting.

As I said last time someone called me out, I know I'm wrong on things and will freely admit it, but I'm not doing the legwork to find them. Example being I wasn't as sold on Ancelotti as some but he seems to be here for the long haul and I think we probably did the best we possibly could do getting him here.

Now your turn.