BBC Bias

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James Martin said:
I agree that it's fair to show something that's true but as pointed out earlier They never show a collation of Shearer video nasties and he was one of the dirtiest bastards ever to set foot on a football pitch. He also happened to be agreat goal scorer but the media only focus on his goals. It's the hypocracy which makes them biased
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Why don't they show a compilation of Arteta's dives or maybe Yakubu's?

Some players get picked up on I suppose, others don't.
 

MikelsGoat said:
Well. Its not the first time young Fellaini has thrown an elbow. I didnt watch MOTD, so im not 100% sure on content. But off the top of my head, i can recall a few times he has thrown a sneaky elbow.

But im fairly sure they dont show the blocking, pulling and downright ****bags tricks that defenders use to combat him. Im not saying its ok to throw elbows, im just saying that when i played football, if some **** was on my case for 90minutes and in my face, at some point in the match he was getting it.
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Exactly. Middlesbroughs tactics were ridiculous.

He is a target. Make no mistake. After he reacted against Hull and it was shown over and over on MOTD, Middlesbrough no doubt identified him as a target.

Other than shy away, its incredibly difficult to ask a player to ignore players who are targeting him. I prefer he gets in amongst it, plays with desire.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
Arteta? Dive?. He draws fouls very, very well.

Theres a difference. I dont remember a time he has dived without any contact.
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Quite a few times to be honest, against Arsenal last season in the 4-1 game stands out. He turned Fabregas by the corner flag, instead of carrying on he did a big swan dive.

He's very good at it but I've seen him dive before, especially when he plays outwide.
 

ToxtethBlue said:
Quite a few times to be honest, against Arsenal last season in the 4-1 game stands out. He turned Fabregas by the corner flag, instead of carrying on he did a big swan dive.

He's very good at it but I've seen him dive before, especially when he plays outwide.
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LIES!
 
I must agree with toccy. A few times i have noticed Mikel take a dive. I must admit its something that he has ironed out of his game, he doesnt really do it anymore, but its something i sadly have seen him do in the past. Same with the Yak, he has done some shocking dives.

But i must also agree with what GOT is saying, Arteta is amazing at drawing fouls, that side of his game is in the rules. He just puts his body in front of the ball and players just cant help themselves from chopping thru him to get to the ball. Thats simply clever play.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
HATCHET MAN: Time for dangerous Fellaini to change his approach before Everton really are sorry | Mail Online

Everton apologists have come up with a range of excuses for the conduct of Marouane Fellaini this season but time has to be called on the way he tries to win headers.
For all that his Marge Simpson hair may draw the attention of referees, he still seems to be getting away with a dangerously aggressive approach.
Against Aston Villa on Sunday Fellaini's elbow connected with Curtis Davies and Zat Knight without proper punishment.
There were similar incidents against Hull and Middlesbrough and 11 bookings since moving to the Premier League last summer tell their own story.
The midfielder may be clumsy rather than malicious but when he tries to win headers he throws out his elbow dangerously and it has to stop before somebody is badly hurt.
Fellaini could legitimately claim he is using his arm to help him jump for headers, to give him more height, but he needs to learn another way.
Everton team-mate Tim Cahill, a much smaller player, has one of the best springs in the League and doesn't seem to put defenders at risk in the process.
He should show Fellaini how it is done.
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The thing is though, they have a point. As I said yesterday after the game, he walks a tight rope when he challenges for headers like that. He's already had refs on his back this season for silly things, he doesn't need to give them amunition.
 

Bruce Wayne said:
The thing is though, they have a point. As I said yesterday after the game, he walks a tight rope when he challenges for headers like that. He's already had refs on his back this season for silly things, he doesn't need to give them amunition.
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I dont think anyone is saying that Mofro isnt flailing his hands and generally trying to be a hard nut, at 21 you expect a bit of that, no doubht he will get a bit savier about it the more expierence he gets.

I think the point is some players get nailed for it more then others, its about trial by media and as such how the media protray a particualr player can change how the player is perceived unfairly in many cases, which has a negative effect on their clubs results.

Andy Johnson is a case in point i dont know how many stone wall penalties were turned down because of his media diving tag last season.

Equally is what Mofro does as bad as what Cahill does every week? I dont think so, though granted Fellaini may not be as savy yet. The comparisons dont stop there, Skirytl, Heriodson, Vidic, Dunne, Savage, Shearer and Bellamy all engaged in an equal displays of mixing it. But yet some players are clearly more marked out by others for it.

The big question is is there a media bias, in regard to some players and even some clubs in comparrison to others? i think so and yes it does transfer in to the games in terms of officating and decisions.

Look at Ronaldo, ok he sometimes goes down a little to easy, but on some occasions when he justifiably goes down he gets nothing, because his media reputation dictates that. The ref knows if he gives it Andy Gray et al will be analyseing the decison for the best part of an hour either on Sky or BBC. Compare this to Gerrard who equally has a tendencey go down easily in the box now outside of Blue and Utd circles he doesnt have a national reputation for diving or cheating.

Is this because half the bbc pundits are ex-liverpool players or is it because he players for Engalnd.

You would have to say that the treatment of some players shows a bias either positively for some clubs or negatively for others, depending on the profile the media wish to protray of that praticualr player.
 
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Neiler said:
I dont think anyone is saying that Mofro isnt flailing his hands and generally trying to be a hard nut at 21 you expect a bit of that, no doubht he will get a bit savyer about it the more expierence he gets.

I think the point is some players get nailed for it rather then others and its about trial by media and as such how the media protray a particualr player can change how the player is perceived unfairly in many cases which has a negative effect on their clubs results.

Andy johnson is a case in point i dont know how many stone wall penalties were turned down because of his media diving tag last season.

Equally is what Mofro does as bad as what Cahill does every week? I dont think so, though granted Fellaini may not be as savy yet. The comparisons dont stop there, Skirtyl, Heriodson, Vidic, Dunne, Savage, Shearer and Bellamy all engaged in an equal displays of mixing it. But yet some players are clearly more marked out by others for it.

The big question is is there a bias, in regard to some players and even some clubs in comparrison to others, i think so!

Look at Ronaldo oh he sometimes goes down a little to easy, but on some occasions when he justifiably goes down he gets nothing, because his media reputation dictates that. The ref knows if he gives it Andy Gray et al will be analyseing the decison for the best part of an hour either on Sky or BBC. Compare this to Gerrard who equally has a tendencey go down easily in the box now outside of Blue and Utd circles he doesnt have a national reputation for diving or cheating.

Is this because half the bbc pundits are ex-liverpool players or is it because he players for Engalnd.

You would have to say that the treatment of some players shows a bias either positively for some clubs or negatively for others, dependiong on the profile the media wish to protray of that praticualr player.
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Spot on.(y)
 
It's because he plays for England really. English players, according to the media, are hard men who don't shy out of any 50/50's, stay on their feet no matter what and they play with broken legs.

I'm talking about Gerrard here btw.
 
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The thing is though mate, we can't do anything about the BBC and what they broadcast. I agree that many other players get away with blue murder as far as they're concerned, and it is frustrating, but you can only control what you can control, and for us that is what MoFro does.

It's equally true, and equally frustrating, that the wind up merchants never get sanctioned, but the people that react do. It's a sad fact of life and something that MoFro will have to deal with, just as Rooney has to deal with it.

It's hard to judge whether his flailing arms are deliberate as we can't get inside his head, but when a player looks at his opponent, then flings an arm in his direction it looks bad. He can't use the excuse that he didn't know he was there because he looked straight at him moments before. The attention he gets might not be fair but he's going to have to be whiter than white to overcome it. Since his booking spree he's cleaned up his tackling pretty well, this is just going to have to be one of those lessons for him to learn.

On the whole yesterday I thought he was superb, not just for his goal but his all round play, but he does need to watch his discipline.
 

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