Baxter gone

[blueblue]

Twenty years ago players had to be the very best in England,Scotland,Ireland and Wales to get into teams in the old first division.
Youngsters now need to be the best in the world to get into premiership teams.
We would all dearly loves if every youngster that came through the academy went straight to our first team,but it simply doesn't happen.Players such as James Wallace,Adam Forshaw,Jose Baxter are all now twenty years old and aren't making the grade at Everton and are not being chased by other premiership teams either....why ?....they are not good enough for the top level.
From the age of fourteen to about eighteen are the crucial years in a players development and so many youngsters who are the very best at fourteen cannot maintain the progress and slip into the lower leagues.How many players in the last ten years that have been let go by Everton have come back to prove the coaches wrong.
In addition I must say that I think as well that this is a very important season for Vellios and for Gueye as I think both of these will also struggle to continue playing at the top level.
Realistically if we get Barkley,Duffy and Garbutt into the first team it will be a huge acheivement....and maybe Hope as well.

 

[DanEFC92]

Seem to remember a time when we could skit RS fans for having a gash academy and ours being the one that produces the better talent. They've recently given regular game time to the likes of Spearing, Flanagan, Kelly, Shelvey and Sterling.
Everton on the other hand release our youngsters after little or no game time. Sigh.

 

[Philw]

Seem to remember a time when we could skit RS fans for having a gash academy and ours being the one that produces the better talent. They've recently given regular game time to the likes of Spearing, Flanagan, Kelly, Shelvey and Sterling.
Everton on the other hand release our youngsters after little or no game time. Sigh.

They bought Shelvey only a season or two ago tho didnt they... doesn't really count.

 

[Dixies60]

Not sure what's gone on here i too thought he signed an extended contract just a couple of months ago, I cant see why we would be paying him to leave when plenty of clubs at League 1 and maybe Championship would take him.

Ive been hearing people banging on for years give the kids a chance blah blah i remember Mark Hughes and Kieran Agard and lots of others look at were they are playing now.

As a few have stated the academy is doing a fantastic job Hibbert, Duffy, Rodwell, Osman Vic and Barkley to name a few have all made the step up in recent years to play for the first team, Id say they are doing a fanatasic job i dont recall any players at the age of 21/22 that we have released who have gone on to bigger things.

 

[TheNinja]

I think sometimes people forget that every season we'll get roughly 16 players who either move up to a new age group U16/U18 or need to move up from Reserve football. The only step up from reserves is into the first team and I think it's a sign of how good our first team is that so many reserve players are not making it. Plus, he's a bad egg.

 

[Pabbers]

Just think, if we got rid of our acadamy and reserves how much money we'd save over the course of the season.

They're obviously either all total crap or the academy isn't doing its job of providing a small squad with players so we might as well get rid of it.

If we do ever need some players to sit on the bench to make the numbers up i'm sure we can get a young player in on loan from Portugal or somewhere to do the job.

We have 5 players in ours first squad that cost us nothing, and 2 of them have been in or around the first team for 10 years.

How much money do you think they have saved us !?!

Jags spent time with our academy also.

Its not 'Rooneys' you need to be developing, its just good / decent Premier League footballers.

United have won titles after title, with home-grown players like, O'shea, Fletcher, Evans, Brown, Gibson. Non exactly worldies, but crucial to the make up of their squad.

We are doing a fine job.

 

[Philw]

We have 5 players in ours first squad that cost us nothing, and 2 of them have been in or around the first team for 10 years.

How much money do you think they have saved us !?!

Jags spent time with our academy also.

Its not 'Rooneys' you need to be developing, its just good / decent Premier League footballers.

United have won titles after title, with home-grown players like, O'shea, Fletcher, Evans, Brown, Gibson. Non exactly worldies, but crucial to the make up of their squad.

We are doing a fine job.

That's not really a fair point. Their first titles, and the ones that set them up for all those since, were one with the Becham/Giggs/Scholes/Neville etc group. Without them Utd would not have had the success they have had.

 

[Pabbers]

That's not really a fair point. Their first titles, and the ones that set them up for all those since, were one with the Becham/Giggs/Scholes/Neville etc group. Without them Utd would not have had the success they have had.

United did not win what they did, in the last 4 years, because of Beckham and Neville.

They are all good players, 1 of the worst I mentioned is doing a fine job in our first team now!!

 

[Summerskin]

WHERE'S BAXTERS WEED MONEY BILL??

 

[Herk]

Think so.
Dunno if that's the case if their contract runs down like gosling.
I thought he had signed for 12 months a couple of months ago,but maybe he didn't in which case i think we get nowt.

If we have offered him a WRITTEN contract (the issue with gosling was that it was a verbal contract) we get Compo if he goes somewhere else

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I think sometimes people forget that every season we'll get roughly 16 players who either move up to a new age group U16/U18 or need to move up from Reserve football. The only step up from reserves is into the first team and I think it's a sign of how good our first team is that so many reserve players are not making it. Plus, he's a bad egg.

More a sign of how bad our youth system is when we have such a small first team squad yet the kids still hardly make a dent. It's mentioned earlier in the thread that kids need to be world class to break into the team now, but that's really not the case. At least now with us. At United, City, Chelsea perhaps and that really should be a major selling point for the club to attract top youngsters, that if they do well they'll get a chance because we don't have the cash to buy established players. Yet in the last decade the only youngsters we've developed that have played for England are Rooney and Rodwell.

Considering this is one area that could potentially allow us to progress beyond our current situation it's a pretty bloody poor return.

 

[ganistuk]

According to FIFA transfer regulations we would be entitled to compensation if we have not terminated the contract:

Article 20 - Training compensation
Training compensation shall be paid to a player’s training club(s): (1) when a player signs his
first contract as a professional and (2) each time a professional is transferred until the end
of the season of his 23rd birthday. The obligation to pay training compensation arises
whether the transfer takes place during or at the end of the player’s contract

All the detail can be read in Annexe 4 here: http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Rulesand...35-450.ashx/FIFA_Regs_Transfers_pg435-450.pdf

 

[Deloodid]

dont worry lids. hes only gone the shop to get a pint of milk,

 

[kenada_blue]

dont worry lids. hes only gone the shop to get a pint of milk,

If he's gone, well have sold for a price.

Covers some admin costs for Naismith etc etc

 

[Neiler]

Has he officaly gone!