Ban the RS from Europe

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And lots of blues went to Rotterdam days before Heysel and behaved impeccably
Even the police played footy with us
Please don't tarnish us with them
I can only apologise for the racism
But I remember walking outside anfield after a rs game and Gary Stanley and Gary Megson (playing for us at the time)were getting punched at and spat at by scoucers of the rs persuasion
I think you are underestimating just how bad it was. If you were around then you would know this wasn’t one or two individuals. The racist incidents at Goodison garnered laughter from a predominantly white crowd. The ‘Everton are a racist club’ tag stuck with the club until the 2000s (google it and educate yourself).

The Lansdowne road game had seats reining down onto the tier below. It was orchestrated, it was just after we had scored. There was hundreds of English fans doing it. I was fortunate in that I was in the stand opposite. The people in the lower tier had to pour on to the field to get out of range of the missiles that were coming down on them.

English fans were renowned as being scum. You can go back to Leeds fans rioting in the mid 1970s and getting a 3 year ban. English clubs were quite rightly banned from Europe as hooliganism and racism was rampant.
 
About this, was talking to the wife about the route the bus took, those fans must of been there a few hours and the police knew it, so why didn't the police reroute the bus, I said to her that instead of the bus going up Arkles road and turning right onto Anfield rd and through the crowd, it could've been diverted on to west Derby rd bown Belmont rd past the kop on to Walton land then up sleepers hill and on to Anfield rd, the police could've blocked anfield rd to stop the crowd from moving till the coach was safely in the stadium. The officer in charge should've for seen the trouble before it ever got to the stage it did.
My grandad lived on Edith Road, near The Arkles, so I just asked my dad, an ex Bizzie what they should have done.
"Back in my day son, we would have just let the dogs bite a few Kopites and knocked it right on the head "

Guess you can't just do that anymore....
 
First time was justified though. English fans were absolute scum. Should have been done in the 1970s when only Leeds were banned. Every club had its own hooligan firm, County road cutters being ours.

I was at Landsdowne Road in Dublin in the mid 90s for a Republic of Ireland game against England and the English fans were still utter filth. Game had to be abandoned. Seats ripped up and being thrown at Irish people. I’d have done them again as well. Around the same period I was at Goodison and witnessed Les Ferdinand (with QPR) and Carlton Palmer (with Sheffield Wednesday) on the end of racial abuse.

County road cutters werent a thing you div.
 
I think you are underestimating just how bad it was. If you were around then you would know this wasn’t one or two individuals. The racist incidents at Goodison garnered laughter from a predominantly white crowd. The ‘Everton are a racist club’ tag stuck with the club until the 2000s (google it and educate yourself).

The Lansdowne road game had seats reining down onto the tier below. It was orchestrated, it was just after we had scored. There was hundreds of English fans doing it. I was fortunate in that I was in the stand opposite. The people in the lower tier had to pour on to the field to get out of range of the missiles that were coming down on them.

English fans were renowned as being scum. You can go back to Leeds fans rioting in the mid 1970s and getting a 3 year ban. English clubs were quite rightly banned from Europe as hooliganism and racism was rampant.
I think you need to separate the issues of hooliganism and racism in football as although they are connected, they are/were 2 different issues.

Racism was prevalent in most football clubs in the 70s and 80s, and well into the 90s. The 'Everton are a racist club' tag you mention only stuck with some people because we were one of the last clubs to have black players in the team. It is unfair to suggest that the club itself was institutionally racist. When I attended Merseyside derbies in the 90s the only racist abuse I heard was from RS fans (who were then still mixed in with home fans) directed against their own black players, for such henious crimes as losing possession.

Hooliganism and violence at games was a different matter. Many clubs had a hooligan element, but you cannot possibly justify other clubs having to pay the price for the actions of one particular club in a tragic event which cause the deaths of 39 people. That it was our neighbours who were responsible and that our best ever team broke up as a consequence makes it even more unjustfied that we were banned from European competition.

As @Khalekan mentioned to you earlier the hooliganism of 'supporters' ( I use that word loosely) of the England national team was on another level completely, and in addition there was no price to pay. I don't remember England being banned from international competition as a result of their fans' violence abroad. The game in Dublin in '95 was a disgrace to as you said but it is fairly common knowledge that the Combat 18 fascist group were the instigators of the trouble. Hooliganism from England fans continued after clubs were re-admitted to European competitions, so a blanket ban against all clubs after Heysel was not the panacea to the problem of hooliganism.
 
I think you are underestimating just how bad it was. If you were around then you would know this wasn’t one or two individuals. The racist incidents at Goodison garnered laughter from a predominantly white crowd. The ‘Everton are a racist club’ tag stuck with the club until the 2000s (google it and educate yourself).

The Lansdowne road game had seats reining down onto the tier below. It was orchestrated, it was just after we had scored. There was hundreds of English fans doing it. I was fortunate in that I was in the stand opposite. The people in the lower tier had to pour on to the field to get out of range of the missiles that were coming down on them.

English fans were renowned as being scum. You can go back to Leeds fans rioting in the mid 1970s and getting a 3 year ban. English clubs were quite rightly banned from Europe as hooliganism and racism was rampant.

There is only one merseyside club, that has defended a racist and defended racism in recent years.There is only one merseyside club, who's supporters murderd another teams supporters in cold blood.I'll leave you to guess who that club is!
 
UEFA would be well advised to read a section of Two Tribes, the new book by Tony Evans.

Back in 1985/86, when Man United went to Anfield, Ron Atkinson and the Untied players had to 'run a gauntlet' of loveable 'best fans in de werld' who sprayed them with something akin to either ammonia or CS gas. About 20 people including children were affected and needed medical assistance.

So they have form for the kind of behaviour that reared its ugly head again on Tuesday, and UEFA should take this and all their other misdemeanours into account imo.
 
I think you are underestimating just how bad it was. If you were around then you would know this wasn’t one or two individuals. The racist incidents at Goodison garnered laughter from a predominantly white crowd. The ‘Everton are a racist club’ tag stuck with the club until the 2000s (google it and educate yourself).

The Lansdowne road game had seats reining down onto the tier below. It was orchestrated, it was just after we had scored. There was hundreds of English fans doing it. I was fortunate in that I was in the stand opposite. The people in the lower tier had to pour on to the field to get out of range of the missiles that were coming down on them.

English fans were renowned as being scum. You can go back to Leeds fans rioting in the mid 1970s and getting a 3 year ban. English clubs were quite rightly banned from Europe as hooliganism and racism was rampant.
I don't need educating about the racist stuff our club have washed that out of our system unlike our near neighbours
Remembering nobody got killed for being the wrong colour at Goodison
Everton fans of that period never followed england .
Lots of clubs including our neighbours had
predominantly white supporters and booing was commonplace.
 
The team itself shouldn't be banned to be fair but they should be made to play all home ties in the champions league (which they are almost certain to qualify for ) behind closed doors. The punishment is then directly passed on to the club, financially, and the fans.... who have and continue to behave in this unacceptable way.
 
I've been lucky in that I've never heard racist abuse at Everton. my brother has, but he started going the match before I did. Man United fans and their comments about Lukaku on social media, though...ugh.
 
I hear that Man City will be kicked out of Europe, we've all seen the pictures where their coach smashes into poor supporters cans and such like. Reckless beyond belief.
 
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