Baines / Rodwell

Summerskin · June 26, 2012

kenada_blue said:
Yeah, I like Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes, etc were all lifeless dull footballers.

It's about balance and being able to keep the ball.. The hit list there like Rodwell etc are all able to do that.

You can't half a load of attacking flair players, and you've got to have a balance that complement each other. Busquests is completely safety first, playing it simple. I Alonso, no matter how boss, has constantly been been criticised in Spain and Xavi etc steel his thunder.

...What?!

kenada_blue · June 26, 2012

Titus Bramble said:
I'm sure he could if he got his fitness up, but he won't if he hardly plays for his club.

I hope his playing regularly next season. The injuries are just tweets as he adjusts to the level imo. Happens to loads of players

kenada_blue · June 26, 2012

Summerskin said:
...What?!

You said you'd want more Wilshire etc playing than Rodwell etc because they are dull players.

Personally think you need a good balance of both but the bottom line being they can keep the ball and work as a team

I pulled up Beckham etc because they were all world class players with creative threat... They never worked as a team.

anchorman · June 26, 2012

Baines is much better than Gary Rowett...

Titus Bramble · June 26, 2012

kenada_blue said:
I hope his playing regularly next season. The injuries are just tweets as he adjusts to the level imo. Happens to loads of players

Hopefully yeah. It would be nice to be able to pick a center midfield from Fellaini, Gibson, Rodwell and Barkley.

kenada_blue · June 26, 2012

Titus Bramble said:
Hopefully yeah. It would be nice to be able to pick a center midfield from Fellaini, Gibson, Rodwell and Barkley.

I'd have em all starting next season

Allezfan · June 26, 2012

kenada_blue said:
I'd have em all starting next season

You are Vincent del Bosque and I claim my five pounds.

blue_scouser_94 · June 26, 2012

even though this is a england thread but we are talking about youngsters and for us i would love to see more of obviously barkley, but vellios and duffy i believe have a lot to offer as we will need a replacement for distin in the next couple of years

Allezfan · June 26, 2012

blue_scouser_94 said:
even though this is a england thread but we are talking about youngsters and for us i would love to see more of obviously barkley, but vellios and duffy i believe have a lot to offer as we will need a replacement for distin in the next couple of years

Vellios at CB is a bold choice, like.

pfim · June 26, 2012

Those are some pretty depressing lineups to be honest. All of those CMs are getting torched by most of the top 10 teams in the world. Theo Walcott has a better chance of playing in the Championship in 2014 than in the World Cup, imo.

Where's Sturridge? Who does Michael Carrick need to smash to get into the squad?

Pabbers · June 26, 2012

Axe Murderer said:
I can agree with a majority of that certainly but it's not just a parenting issue although yes lazy parenting has got to take some accountability. British schools don't bother with P.E anymore either for the life of me I can't understand that and then in the next breath start saying kids are obese. We all know not all kids are good at sports but physical education is not just about that it's fitness and health, preparing kids to work as part of a team. All factors.

I am a firm believer in playing games to win, I know this is a point which has split opinion but there is nothing wrong with being winners taking part for fun is all well and good but everyone loves to win and it breeds a mental toughness which is sadly lacking in our youngsters because as British we have become to used to the PC brigade telling us winning doesn't matter, it does.

Could not agree more mate. But, kids have more options out of school, with teams and other sports, and its down to the parents to arrange this for their kid(s).

I coach an under 8's team, and the 'winning at all costs' attitude comes from the people shouting on the line, the mum's and Dad's. We win a fair few, and we lose some, and we like to play football, and try kids all over the field....just as long as they are having fun at that age, but with a hint of learning.

My son is at a Man United school, and they are fantastic, proper top draw coaches and they just encourage kids to run with the ball, and have fun with it. Man Uniteds brief to them is " find us the next Gazza" !

Allezfan · June 26, 2012

pfim said:
Those are some pretty depressing lineups to be honest. All of those CMs are getting torched by most of the top 10 teams in the world.

According to FIFA we are one of the top 10 teams in the world. Top 5 even.

pfim · June 26, 2012

Artetafan said:
According to FIFA we are one of the top 10 teams in the world. Top 5 even.

Well, i could probably pick 2 or 3 better midfields from England's available players, so I guess it makes sense.

pfim · June 26, 2012

Axe Murderer said:
I can't see the w/c being any different. England haven't got a crop of youngsters coming through which will take us up a notch. We will continue to be average until sport at grass roots and school level is taken more seriously. British kids would rather have a game on FIFA or Pro Evo than take a real ball out for a kick about.

I think you're fooling yourself if you don't think this is the same in most every other country in Europe.

toffeejack · June 26, 2012

Titus Bramble said:
Rodwell must be nowhere near getting into the England squad at the moment. He needs to get fit, get into the Everton team and perform consistently to prove he's got what it takes. He hasn't done that for a long time.

milner, carroll, defoe, henderson and a few others were picked in the squad even though they were not 1st choice for their clubs