Bad ref decisions - for and against - season 2025/26

30/12/25 Nottingham Forest 0 Everton 2

Didn't see the whole game. Gather the ref could have booked a few but chose not to.
I've no problem with allowing a bit of feisty tackling.

Match Officials​

Referee:Michael Oliver
Video Assistant Referee:James Bell
Assistant Referee 1:Stuart Burt
Assistant Referee 2:James Mainwaring
Fourth Official:Dean Whitestone
Assistant VAR Official:Gary Beswick
not sure there were many of ours that could have been booke but certainly a couple of forest players could have had a card. Nothing standout bad that went unpunished but as this was the last game before the threshold goes to 10 bookings for a ban from 5, I'm good with that.
 
Each KMI Panel is made up of five members. Three are former players or coaches, plus there is one representative each from the Premier League and Professional Game Match Officials.

Vote was 3-2 for both giving a pen and for VAR to have sent the ref to the monitor…..
Wonder who the two were against were representing …….
100% all 3 former players and coaches said it was a pen.
 
Good day to hide this.


Yeah we know.
It’s the media silence that gets me.

This happens to certain teams and Sky & BBC are all over it.

With us it’s just a shrug of the shoulders and the circus moves on.

If the media don’t ask questions that matter nothing changes.

Sky are in it for the money. There is a reason for the Sky 6.

The BBC have a completely different funding model and should really be asking questions that are a bit more challenging rather than just brown nosing their way on the PL gravy train. It used to be their job anyway.
 
The 2 on the panel that said no penalty cited “delayed reaction” as one of 2 major reasons…..

Erm…..

I would like to see the part of the rule book that unequivocally states that the fouled players bodily reaction to pain determines whether or not a challenge is or is not a foul.

How can they release that as a statement and out of all the people who said it, wrote it, proof read it, released it, not a single one thought “hang on, this statement clearly shows it is possible, in fact it is absolutely required, to influence refereeing decisions, rather than being about is it a foul or is it not.”

Gobsmacked more by this idiocy than the decision itself.
 
Remember the media furore over the injustice at the Spurs v rs game last season.
They were demanding a replay at one point.
Over to Everton - the general media silence is deafening with a hint of smugness.
That’s a false equivalence though. The furore about that decision wasn’t that there was a dispute over whether something should be a pen or a goal or whatever it was that the gave literally the ‘wrong’ decision. VAR decided what the decision was but it was accidentally given as the opposite. It’s clearly a much bigger deal when something like that happens.
 
That’s a false equivalence though. The furore about that decision wasn’t that there was a dispute over whether something should be a pen or a goal or whatever it was that the gave literally the ‘wrong’ decision. VAR decided what the decision was but it was accidentally given as the opposite. It’s clearly a much bigger deal when something like that happens.
Isn't a wrong decision a wrong decision regardless.
 
The 2 on the panel that said no penalty cited “delayed reaction” as one of 2 major reasons…..

Erm…..

I would like to see the part of the rule book that unequivocally states that the fouled players bodily reaction to pain determines whether or not a challenge is or is not a foul.

How can they release that as a statement and out of all the people who said it, wrote it, proof read it, released it, not a single one thought “hang on, this statement clearly shows it is possible, in fact it is absolutely required, to influence refereeing decisions, rather than being about is it a foul or is it not.”

Gobsmacked more by this idiocy than the decision itself.
Remember Tark's penalty V Leeds? Hands behind his back, apparently it was a penalty because he leaned towards the ball. That was much less of a penalty than the Burnley one.. I'm not sure what the answer is almost every hand ball is debatable (Except for O'Brien V Arsenal).. They are going to have to sort it out it's beyond a joke, Maybe any contact below the elbow is given regardless of proximity or arm position, above the elbow is not an infringement as you cant hide that area behind your back when defending. Currently it's far too easy for the idiots in charge of VAR to influence games.
 
Isn't a wrong decision a wrong decision regardless.
Not in terms of the way people will react, no. You can’t honestly think there wouldn’t be a bigger kick off in here if it turned out VAR had told the referee to give the pen in the Arsenal game but he hadn’t done it? Of course there would, and rightly so. They’re not the same thing.
 

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