Current Affairs Australian Bush Fires

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It may contribute, but it is not the cause. The planet is heating up anyway. It will then cool again. Global Warming is not man made. The media are scaremongering. The bush fires in Australia were not caused by global warming, they were caused by high temperatures, arson and accidents. They were made worse by government policies concerning fire breaks.

That’s it. That’s all I have to say on the subject.

However…

This is an internet forum. I am not attending university and disagreeing with my professor. I am not here to be educated. Nobody here is qualified to do that. It really doesn’t matter that we disagree. It’s not important. I do not dislike you for your opinion, nor do I think you are uneducated. I do not judge you for having your opinion. Your opinion means nothing to me, and mine should mean nothing to you. If I want to be, in your opinion, wrong about something - I can be. You can be too. I don’t care if you are wrong. I am not going to try and change anyone’s opinion. This is an internet forum.

Can we just agree to disagree.
Of course we can disagree. That is part of being part of a discussion forum. A couple of points I think worth making though.

Although I (and others) are responding directly to your posts, it doesn't mean I am talking only to you. While your posts are being used as the discussion point, it is a discussion on a public forum, so anyone can read and join the discussion.

Discussions around opinions on climate change and not like people are trying to convince you coke is better than pepsi or J Lo is hotter than Beyonce. People see this as a threat to our way of life, and potentially even to life itself. The biggest threat to this is not the leaders that do nothing about it, it is the people who vote for the leaders that do nothing. That is the reason people get so passionate about it and want to convince people to consider the facts, and not just shrug their shoulders. (Again, not to convince you specifically, but so anyone reading this thread can consider the information)

One other thing, I have seen you mention a few times now about climate cycles, which is perfectly true - it does go up and down over time. But have another look at the graph you posted a few pages back. Do you notice that all peaks are very sharp and then drop straight away. All apart from one peak. The current peak. Your graph suggests that the Earth should actually be getting colder now, but it is getting slightly warmer. I wonder why the shape of the current peak is different from every other peak?
 
Of course we can disagree. That is part of being part of a discussion forum. A couple of points I think worth making though.

Although I (and others) are responding directly to your posts, it doesn't mean I am talking only to you. While your posts are being used as the discussion point, it is a discussion on a public forum, so anyone can read and join the discussion.

Discussions around opinions on climate change and not like people are trying to convince you coke is better than pepsi or J Lo is hotter than Beyonce. People see this as a threat to our way of life, and potentially even to life itself. The biggest threat to this is not the leaders that do nothing about it, it is the people who vote for the leaders that do nothing. That is the reason people get so passionate about it and want to convince people to consider the facts, and not just shrug their shoulders. (Again, not to convince you specifically, but so anyone reading this thread can consider the information)

One other thing, I have seen you mention a few times now about climate cycles, which is perfectly true - it does go up and down over time. But have another look at the graph you posted a few pages back. Do you notice that all peaks are very sharp and then drop straight away. All apart from one peak. The current peak. Your graph suggests that the Earth should actually be getting colder now, but it is getting slightly warmer. I wonder why the shape of the current peak is different from every other peak?

Fair comment. You have again made your points politely, which is refreshing.

(Obviously my previous statement will be too much for some people, so we can expect to see a few “unkind” comments haha).

With regards to the graph, I have highlighted the time periods that have shown similar behaviour to the current time period. Granted the temperatures are lower, but after the last two periods, the temperature has actually dropped. Prior to that the temperature was glacial, and it went up. Obviously you may read this and see it differently.
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Alternative theory – Maybe we are preventing another ice age by possibly contributing to global warming*.

(*I don’t actually think that)
 
Fair comment. You have again made your points politely, which is refreshing.

(Obviously my previous statement will be too much for some people, so we can expect to see a few “unkind” comments haha).

With regards to the graph, I have highlighted the time periods that have shown similar behaviour to the current time period. Granted the temperatures are lower, but after the last two periods, the temperature has actually dropped. Prior to that the temperature was glacial, and it went up. Obviously you may read this and see it differently.
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Alternative theory – Maybe we are preventing another ice age by possibly contributing to global warming*.

(*I don’t actually think that)
They were telling us in the 70s that we have an ice age on average evry 18 to 20,000yrs and its been 25,000yrs(?) sjnce the last one.

Just sayin like.
 
Now back in the real world.
3 statements and 1 opinion

The Salvation Army, we raised $40M and distributed $5M...we are keeping the rest for the next disaster.
The Red Cross, we raised $90M and distributed $30M...we are keeping the rest for the next disaster.
Person on the ground, gist...wtf? there's 2000 people here who lost their homes and are living in tents.

Me; They're sat on a pot of dosh, but think its a State / Federal Govt. matter to re-house people?
Maybe it is -

But next disaster don't come on the TV rattling your 'kin tins in my face...not for profit orginisation my arse.
 
Now back in the real world.
3 statements and 1 opinion

The Salvation Army, we raised $40M and distributed $5M...we are keeping the rest for the next disaster.
The Red Cross, we raised $90M and distributed $30M...we are keeping the rest for the next disaster.
Person on the ground, gist...wtf? there's 2000 people here who lost their homes and are living in tents.

Me; They're sat on a pot of dosh, but think its a State / Federal Govt. matter to re-house people?
Maybe it is -

But next disaster don't come on the TV rattling your 'kin tins in my face...not for profit orginisation my arse.
I've seen this shared on FB today a few times, is there a link to these figures at all?
 
Now back in the real world.
3 statements and 1 opinion

The Salvation Army, we raised $40M and distributed $5M...we are keeping the rest for the next disaster.
The Red Cross, we raised $90M and distributed $30M...we are keeping the rest for the next disaster.
Person on the ground, gist...wtf? there's 2000 people here who lost their homes and are living in tents.

Me; They're sat on a pot of dosh, but think its a State / Federal Govt. matter to re-house people?
Maybe it is -

But next disaster don't come on the TV rattling your 'kin tins in my face...not for profit orginisation my arse.

Now back to the real world.



Since the bushfires we have sent 2,000 volunteers and staff to help on the ground, worked in 110 relief centres, registered 61,000 people on Register Find Reunite, and paid almost 700 emergency grants. We are currently getting a million dollars out the door each day to help people who need it. If you have been affected - lost a home or worse, a loved one, to the fires - we are here to help. Please trust that you are foremost in our minds and efforts. You are what keeps us going.
 
Another large fire started just outside Canberra, possibly affecting the Southern suburbs tomorrow.. Apparently was started by a defence force helicopters landing lights

 
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