Oasis1878
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Yes just like the DCL bashing pre season
TBH our problems yesterday was the right back position as who ever plays there faces two players the winger plus the overlapping full back do we sacafice Gomes for us to have two wingers who track back .....?
Crosses in to DCL were at a low premium missed one scored one .......
Klopp went down Coleman's side within 2 minutes we were 1-0 down .....tbh I would have signed Homes at half time and fetched Iwobi on then imo..
Our shape was wrong v a team who use their full backs plus wide players to bomb forward ........
I don't think Coleman was fully fit.Yes just like the DCL bashing pre season
TBH our problems yesterday was the right back position as who ever plays there faces two players the winger plus the overlapping full back do we sacafice Gomes for us to have two wingers who track back .....?
Crosses in to DCL were at a low premium missed one scored one .......
Klopp went down Coleman's side within 2 minutes we were 1-0 down .....tbh I would have signed Homes at half time and fetched Iwobi on then imo..
Our shape was wrong v a team who use their full backs plus wide players to bomb forward ........
Even if he was fit it was a tall order they used that flank spot even when our debutante came on and he had a very good game ........
Gomes was far too slow for me and that bad injury has affected his speed.,.....
His role seems hugely important to how Carlo wants us playing.
I think yesterday he was too ponderous when the pace of the first few minutes should have told him he needed to think quicker and be more aware of who was around him when receiving the ball. I think he has done the role very well in other games
when I thought of the options on the bench for him though, I was happy that Carlo left him in as long as he did.
however, if this role is as crucial to us as it seems I think he will need to be a bit more consistent this season to stop us targeting a new signing there
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
Yeah I'm not disputing their quality mate. I'm just disagreeing with your assessment that each of their midfielders that started the game yesterday were individually better than ours. They have two of the best wide attackers in world football who dovetail brilliantly with a very clever and unselfish centre forward. two fantastic attacking full backs, possibly the best keeper in the world and arguably the best central defender around. Thiago is also class as I said. But overall I think their midfield is probably their weakest link. Having said that they are still strong there compared to most teams. I don't rate Fabinho as good as Allan but that's an opinion. I think our midfield 3, when fit and in shape, is our strongest department and will only get better as they work more together.
The RS were on blob yesterday and our midfield was off colour for the reasons I mentioned. They came into this game playing their normal game. we came into this game with Carlo having practically zero time to practice tactically how to set up to counter their pressing game.
I fully expect it to be different next time around, especially if they're coming into the game on the back of a difficult away European game.
Ive said repeatedly, not many of our players cant be improved on, some would be harder than others, like Digne, but if we can improve on Andre Gomes, great and I'm all for it, I just don't buy into the "he's rubbish" shouts.
I admit that he's very inconsistent and yesterday he was quite terrible.
a big problem with his role is that even when he is doing it well like in some games this season, he won’t stand out hugely. In that way he is always only one poor game away from loads of fans thinking he has just generally been crap
Still starts every game for me right now.
If Tom Davis had played as bad as that .....the criticism would be far worse than on this thread.......Gomes was just far too slow yesterday, on his day he is wonderful.....
Compared to Tom Davies Gomes was World Class yesterday.
That posting utter crap, and to know it ........Gomes should have been subbed at Half time he was that bad ........
The binman chronicles
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Tom Davies wouldn't have even had the opportunity to lose the ball. He would have been chasing shadows.
Gomes had a stinker but he was playing against one of the best teams in the world.
Could have subbed all 3 of our midfield yesterday at HT.
There was a minor improvement after the break, but I thought Doucore was quite poor.
Its no shame, they are a good unit we played against.
Our whole midfield was pretty poor first half, but subbing at half time bad?? Nah
everton1953
Player Valuation: £40m
It is fair to say that we (I) would have crucified Davies had he played as bad as Gomez. That is just the way of things. Gomez is supposed to be and surely was at one time a very good player. Remember who we signed him from? Carlo needs to see what can be done with Gomez to bring back his undoubted talent. It is worrying really.
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