An we are bottom

GhostOfDixie · September 27, 2010

Robert Jarvis said:
Come January which is any games away we will still have no money for transfers unless we sell so it would have to be loan deals. So who can we loan out in January? Osman. Neville, Distin, Saha, Hibbo, just might start winning the rest of the games from then to May.

Just feel right down at the moment, disillusioned and completely disheartened. Someone please tell there is light at the end of this dark, dark tunnel.

See Inner-City for hope.

Seamus Colemole · September 27, 2010

Neiler said:
Im going to be honest and say i dont agree with pretty much all of that, in fact the end is not nigh!

Come on mate, you can't claim this :

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Originally Posted by Neiler

Deadly serious, we are by far one of the best sides in the league - this side has alway been one or two adjustments away from tearing throgh this league and Sat was the begining - watch and learn mate.

Anyone else want to get in on the ground floor - so to speak."

and not even explain what those adjustments are and how they are going to come about, or more to the point what is gonna change between the first 6 games of this season and the remaining 32 which take us into the champions League.

As i said, i think Europa is still in touch. But once we find that winning formula we have to make sure we don't lose it again.

Unfortunatly we found it second half of last season but lost it start of this, so it could happen again.

If we're as good as you say whats going wrong and if its so easy to change why hasn't it?

Neiler · September 27, 2010

deathbyropeandglass said:
Come on mate, you can't claim this :

"

Originally Posted by Neiler
Deadly serious, we are by far one of the best sides in the league - this side has alway been one or two adjustments away from tearing throgh this league and Sat was the begining - watch and learn mate.

Anyone else want to get in on the ground floor - so to speak."

and not even explain what those adjustments are and how they are going to come about, or more to the point what is gonna change between the first 6 games of this season and the remaining 32 which take us into the champions League.

As i said, i think Europa is still in touch. But once we find that winning formula we have to make sure we don't lose it again.

Unfortunatly we found it second half of last season but lost it start of this, so it could happen again.

If we're as good as you say whats going wrong and if its so easy to change why hasn't it?

I think the analyses that its down to personnell is wrong, your looking at trying to solve a problem with a City pair of eyes. I dont think the problem is necessarily the quality of our players - to name two that are under the kosh, Yak and Osman. The Yak is a 20 goal a season striker simples - its about opinion but i dont have one iota of doubt that if the YAk plays every game from here on in he will touch 20 goals. In regard to Osman - hes a very underatted player - i think its a position we can improve in the transfer market, but he has proven he can be in a team that regualrlyqualifies for Europe and the Champions League. He is a great outlet and probably makes up more yards when he plays then any other player in the team.

Just two examples, as i say the problem isnt who is in the team or the squad - we have quality and options in abundance, the problem has been in the head for me - the desire and willingness to battle to provide a platform to win games hasnt been there. I saw a glimmer of an improvement on Sat and i think this is the beginging. Two wins at the moment will catipult us up the league, no one is showing consistencey and no one is playing as consistencey well as us, we just need the will and desire to push our quality home.

Like i say its not the personnel or thier quality, its in the head.

Europe nailed on!

DionDublin · September 27, 2010

Neiler said:
In regard to Osman - hes a very underatted player - i think its a position we can improve in the transfer market, but he has proven he can be in a team that regualrlyqualifies for Europe and the Champions League. He is a great outlet and probably makes up more yards when he plays then any other player in the team.

speechless

Neiler · September 27, 2010

DionDublin said:
speechless

TX Bill · September 28, 2010

BMFin said:
I'm not happy with the draw, but it is what it is. I still wore my Everton jersey out tonight with pride. I did meet pleanty of dumbass (American) United fans tonight, and it looks like there's still room on their bandwagon.

I'd be surprised if 8 out of 10 of 'em that you met even knew who's shirt you were wearing.

Neiler said:
Its all about the Yak mate.

He's about to start banging them in for fun.

You watch.

Chang Elephant · September 28, 2010

Neiler said:
In regard to Osman - hes a very underatted player - i think its a position we can improve in the transfer market, but he has proven he can be in a team that regualrlyqualifies for Europe and the Champions League. He is a great outlet and probably makes up more yards when he plays then any other player in the team.

He's a liability/championship quality player

kenada_blue · September 28, 2010

Chang Elephant said:
He's a liability/championship quality player

He's a very gifted central midfield player with a great work engine. His first touch is one of the best at the club and he's got nimble feet.

He's terrible as a right sided midfielder though.

If he was 6ft and put on a bit of weight, he'd be a very valuable member of the team, probably 1st on the team sheet.

But overall he's a great squad player for us. Others teams in the league would love to have an Osman type player in their squad to boost it.

Neiler · September 28, 2010

kenada_blue said:
He's a very gifted central midfield player with a great work engine. His first touch is one of the best at the club and he's got nibble feet.

He's terrible as a right sided midfielder though.

If he was 6ft and put on a bit of weight, he'd be a very valuable member of the team, probably 1st on the team sheet.

But overall he's a great squad player for us. Others teams in the league would love to have an Osman type player in their squad to boost it.

Intresting to see if he or Seamus starts on the right if fit.

kenada_blue · September 28, 2010

Neiler said:
Intresting to see if he or Seamus starts on the right if fit.

I dont think he should start. He should be back up for Arteta or in his prefered central role.

He offers nothing outwide while Coleman has more in his locker and pace.

Moyes should learn that Osman, Hibbert's and Cahill's are good for certain games and not for others. He can squad rotate now...but is chosing not to and fitting people into roles they dont 100% suit

Neiler · September 28, 2010

kenada_blue said:
I dont think he should start. He should be back up for Arteta or in his prefered central role.

He offers nothing outwide while Coleman has more in his locker and pace.

Moyes should learn that Osman, Hibbert's and Cahill's are good for certain games and not for others. He can squad rotate now...but is chosing not to and fitting people into roles they dont 100% suit

I wouldnt say nothing, but its hard to argue with the highlighted.

Blue Ray · October 3, 2010

Ara said:
Everton are BOTTOM of the league, and totally deserve it, were [Poor language removed] and as such i've given up on them this season. Not gonna bother watching another match. Made a deal with my g/f last week that if they don't win this week(thinking they beat brentford) Then i won't watch another Everton match this season. An i won't

The whole match was summed up by Cahill off for Osman.

Thats what I like to see. A true fan. Fuxake.