American Food

Eastern New York on Lake Erie near Niagara Falls which pours into Lake Ontario. A city that peaked in 1950 and has shrunk about 50% since then. Part of the American rust belt. A relic in many ways in terms of importance.
Substitute Mersey for Erie, Irish Sea for Ontario and not much is different...obviously plenty is but you get the gist.
 
Substitute Mersey for Erie, Irish Sea for Ontario and not much is different...obviously plenty is but you get the gist.

An interesting comparison. The American rust belt has gone two paths. One was clinging to the past and trying to make that work. The other was sinking to rock bottom and finding a way to reinvent itself.

Pittsburgh, PA, Columbus, OH, and Indianapolis, IN have restructured themselves to again thrive.

Cities like Cleveland...which is nearly a third of it's peak that were once a big influence because of their size, hasn't really found a way to redefine itself.

The Rock n Roll museum is cool...but the blighted city is crap.

Detroit...1950 had 1.8 million people. The biggest example of a city relic. The economy was cars. Today it's approaching 1/3 of that. For years Detroit had zero supermarkets. It was a big deal that one opened. Most of Detroit has been a food desert for years. Millions of dollars have been spent trying to revitalize that city.

It's been an urban desert for decades. I should promote a fixer upper program in Detroit.
 
An interesting comparison. The American rust belt has gone two paths. One was clinging to the past and trying to make that work. The other was sinking to rock bottom and finding a way to reinvent itself.

Pittsburgh, PA, Columbus, OH, and Indianapolis, IN have restructured themselves to again thrive.

Cities like Cleveland...which is nearly a third of it's peak that were once a big influence because of their size, hasn't really found a way to redefine itself.

The Rock n Roll museum is cool...but the blighted city is crap.

Detroit...1950 had 1.8 million people. The biggest example of a city relic. The economy was cars. Today it's approaching 1/3 of that. For years Detroit had zero supermarkets. It was a big deal that one opened. Most of Detroit has been a food desert for years. Millions of dollars have been spent trying to revitalize that city.

It's been an urban desert for decades. I should promote a fixer upper program in Detroit.
It's a shame a city so steeped in automotive history is now in such shape.
 
Just checking to see how related we might be. I have family in Ark Ozarks
Probably safe to assume we're of separate bloodlines and that you're free of the horrors afflicting my own. We just learned to walk on our hind legs a couple of generations ago.
 
I'll tell you what though, when I went to Texas last year I was in absolute food heaven. The barbecue, as you can imagine, was insane. Then as if it couldn't get any better, the all-you-can-eat buffet in the Bellagio in Vegas was possibly the food highlight of my life. 80 dollars all in for as much as you can eat/drink, including loads of craft beers. What an experience.
 
Automation and union overreach accelerated things.

UAW is the villian at the end of the day.

Cars being built in other cities are down to the UAW. They chose extortion over viability.

Surely there were other factors at play. Suburbanization and erosion of the tax base—white flight and white blight (TM if that’s not already in parlance)—economic trends over the long term. These all play a role. UAW probably over funded pensions and raised human capital costs but the fact is that international car sales work well with local labor and less shipping. And, in general, American autos are inferior in design and quality compared to the Axis power autos.

Also, sometimes cities shrink.
 

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