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[steken1]

Tactically something was very amiss last night.

First half they realised they couldn't live with our midfield. So they decided not to try.

They took a man out and went long where they could get 2 on 2, or 2 on 3 which gave them a chance.

Instead of dominating possesion and playing through midfield we, inexpicably, decided to have a go of that ourselves and launched it up to Fellaini all half. The odd time we played properly we cut them open and Fella scored. We played into thier hands last night. Big CB's like Olsson and Williamson will not have a problem jumping with Fellaini, just like they never had a problem with Cahill.

We still should have won and this would all be moot, but we never.

Tactically I'd say Pardew got the better of Moyles last night considering the injuries they had and that we were at home.

 

[Ihaters]

'kin Moyes with his un-dour, positive tactics instead of sitting back and defending a lead..

 

[steken1]

'kin Moyes with his un-dour, positive tactics instead of sitting back and defending a lead..

His tactics weren't positive. We went from tonking them through boss footie to a game of centre half head tennis, that ours were crap at.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

We should never have lost that game after going 2-1 up in the 88th.

Sickener....

 

[Deleted member 28206]

We should never have lost that game after going 2-1 up in the 88th.

Sickener....

From my own perspective the game was dead at half time, a second goal from us and it was all over, the two ruled out goals would have given us a 4-2 win, something you'd consider fair on the state of play in the first half, some of the interplay between fellaini, Merrilas, Baines & Pienaar was sublime, i've not seen such fluid cutting play in everton for a VERY long time, but the introduction of Ba put jags on his arse, made him sit back and panic and put longer balls over his head aimed at Felli, these resulted in a loss of posessession at LEAST twice I counted.

Leading to one of Newcastles goals

 

[SteveRochester]

We should never have lost that game after going 2-1 up in the 88th.

Sickener....

This.

All they did in the entire second half was knock it long towards Ba and Cisse (then Ameobi). Granted, all we did was knock it long towards Fellaini, but it was disconcerting that Jags and Distin couldn't contain their CFs when that was their only tactic. Fact about it, I think Jags was poor for most of the night and I'd love to see Johnny back for the Swansea game.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

We should never have lost that game after going 2-1 up in the 88th.

Sickener....

If we'd have lost the game I'd agree with you

 

[Goat]

If we'd have lost the game I'd agree with you

But we did lose the game, I mean the score will say 2-2, but we lost the game.

 

[scratchnsurf]

God knows why Moyes didn't think of that. Two other things, which i've mentioned before but still annoy me:

- Leaving subs far too late
- Bringing every man back for a corner

The above seriously need addressing.

My brain is saying that this tactic is wrong, but there's a little (scottish) voice in there saying 'aye, but how often do we concede from corners?'

 

[efcfanwirral]

i cannot believe as soon as that anichebe goal was scored in the 88th min he did not get johnny on from the kick off resort to 5 at the back and drag neville off

Yep immensely frustrating, we sit back for the best part of most games yet the one time we actually need to for like 5 minutes we don't!

 

[evertonian6]

God knows why Moyes didn't think of that. Two other things, which i've mentioned before but still annoy me:

- Leaving subs far too late
- Bringing every man back for a corner

The above seriously need addressing.

spot on. im literally sitting there at 65-70 minutes thinking put ****ing sone so on, and when does he come on? the usual, 80-85th minute, far too late. naismith and coleman should of been given a good 20 minutes yesterday we were knackered and lacked pace, or i would of even slotted heitinga in to midfield when ****ing neville who shouldnt of played anyway was shattered

 

[steken1]

My brain is saying that this tactic is wrong, but there's a little (scottish) voice in there saying 'aye, but how often do we concede from corners?'

Most sides do it.

A corner is dangerous, you clear that then you deal with a punt to the 18 yard box, which is less dangerous then you push up.

I don't agree with it but Moyles isn't the only manager who does it. Neville would leave three up when he was asked.

 

[Brennan]

Most sides do it.

A corner is dangerous, you clear that then you deal with a punt to the 18 yard box, which is less dangerous then you push up.

I don't agree with it but Moyles isn't the only manager who does it. Neville would leave three up when he was asked.

No, they don't.

Every home game we've played in the last year and a half i've actually watched this, and i've not seen one team consistently bring back every man for a corner. We do it _every_ time.

There have been times when we've had two more men in the box than the team who are actually taking the corner, i fail to see how having 11 men in and around the box will be better defensively, if anything it will lead to a scramble and confusion should the ball drop to the floor or start bouncing around.

And as somebody else pointed out earlier there were times when we had every player back defending but they weren't even covering the right positions. It's mad.

 

[steken1]

No, they don't.

Every home game we've played in the last year and a half i've actually watched this, and i've not seen one team consistently bring back every man for a corner. We do it _every_ time.

Funny that so do I, and unless a side is chasing the game they nearly all bring everyone back, including Man Utd. Arsenal never, Chelsea in the cup never and I think one of the relegated sides, mayabe Bolton, never.

 

[manxtoffee]

Sorry I'm late coming into this, but besides the bad calls the whole team should've kept 100% concentration, especially after we scored a late one, plus the team as a whole gave the ball away far too cheaply in those final minutes.