All good things must come to an end

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Khalekan said:
This kind of thread is pointless.

As has been said mant times before, Everton is as good as it gets for Moyes.

He is a very average coach whom has somehow wrangled his way into a job paying almost £4,000,000 per annum without a scintilla of pressure for results being put on him by his employers.

If we win a few games he is praised in the media as a miracle worker for "over achieving" with no money.

If we lose a few matches we are told it isn't "his fault" as he has no money.

Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool have had umpteen changes of manager during Moyes's time at Goodison.

Man City have had two or three since they came into the dough.

No one ever comes looking for Moyes.

Hie reputation is very much media driven but in the major boardrooms up and down the country it seems the honchos don't share their opinion of him.

Get yer heads round it, lads.

Moyes will do his usual fannying around for the next few months and will then sign on for five more glorious years.

In the meantime we will quietly drift away from the CL fight and will not make the semi final of the Cup as the whole focus of affairs at Everton becomes fixed on Moyes and the "will he, won't he" hokey cokey he now performs when his contract is up for renewal.

Moyes has the best job in the world and he won't be walking away from it.

And sadly, none of the more monied teams are going to come along and head hunt him and allow Everton to start breathing again with someone new.
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That's a great post mate. Terrified about him signing on for anther 5 years though just doesn't bear thinking about.
 
He's been **** has Moyles....get Mark Hughes in.

He'll turn down Moyzis salary, and work for 50% of it. He can work with limited funds.

Get Owen Coyle in, got his own 70's shorts and can say English Premier League more than 16 times in a post match interview. Most under-rated tactician around.

And they're not ginger.

Moys Out. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzeezzzzzzzzzzz
 
BlueLlama said:
yes and in a world of gashness and constant near relegation.
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sorry to keep quoting you llama but......


and moyes was setting the world on fire at preston was he?

losing two play off finals (****ting it in big games no not moyes) ok he won league two aswell which i'm sure was ace but enough to get the efc job?
 
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A bad bad analogy but Dallas Cowboys fans have never forgiven Jerry Jones for firing Tom Landry. Landry won a whole lot more silverware and was a class act top to bottom. Landry got sacked almost 20 years ago.

Whoever thinks Moyes should be sacked should have their heads checked. If he leaves, he leaves when he decides he leaves. Anything short of that embarrasses all of us.
 
Well I haven't done a 'proper' post on here for quite some time – saw this thread and thought I might as well post.


I am 19 years of age, (20 in July) and I have seen David Moyes transform this club to relegation-certainties to European contenders.


I don't think we'll ever see anyone like him again, hense the reason I'll be extremelly dissapointed if he decided to leave.


A lot of us question his decision making when it comes to subsititutions – but at the end of the day every manager has his flaws.


IF he does go then I would like to see someone like Alan Stubbs given the go to manage a top club – much in the same way we gave Moyes a go back in 2002.
 

Number_25 said:
Well I haven't done a 'proper' post on here for quite some time – saw this thread and thought I might as well post.


I am 19 years of age, (20 in July) and I have seen David Moyes transform this club to relegation-certainties to European contenders.


I don't think we'll ever see anyone like him again, hense the reason I'll be extremelly dissapointed if he decided to leave.


A lot of us question his decision making when it comes to subsititutions – but at the end of the day every manager has his flaws.


IF he does go then I would like to see someone like Alan Stubbs given the go to manage a top club – much in the same way we gave Moyes a go back in 2002.
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Moyes had actually managed a club before. Our reserves don't count, though I'm sure an internal appointment like Stubbs would keep the status quo going and not rock the boat....and not cost money of course so it's very likely
 
People are far to quick to forget what moyes is fighting against. The lack of funds for players ect. I'm not saying he's perfect but nor is any manager in this league apart from maybe SAF.

If he'd got his wish in January and we'd seen a CM and striker come in we'd be a different team. If he had options on the bench, say donovan negredo ect sat there would we be still seeing the same mundane subs coming from the bench? If we had a couple of better players in that first eleven would be struggling to kill games off and leaving ourselves open to last 10 barmbardments of pressure?

It never seems to be the players fault in some's minds its automatically moyes fault. Using the Norwich game as an example, from his interview its clear he didn't ask the players to sit back last 10. Same with Oldham, yet some believe its an order from moyes!?!?

Moyes has Everton where they should be based on his squad. No better no worse but should be applauded for having us consistently where we should be year after year without the finance to move on. I think it's unrealistic to think someone will come in and do better dealt the same hand tbh.

As for the contract, it depends what's going on...if the players know he's doing it to push the board into spending, I'm sure there right behind him. We don't know the exact reasons and if or not its having an affect on the players. I don't think it is IMO. We just got 5/6 players who are having a bit of a dip which of course will affect us badly as these are good players not world class one's.

This is a team/squad that needs 4/5 players coming in to push on. If moyes wants to know he has the chance of doing that before he re-signs a new 5yr deal is that wrong? I dont think so...
 
Christiffa25 said:
People are far to quick to forget what moyes is fighting against. The lack of funds for players ect. I'm not saying he's perfect but nor is any manager in this league apart from maybe SAF.

If he'd got his wish in January and we'd seen a CM and striker come in we'd be a different team. If he had options on the bench, say donovan negredo ect sat there would we be still seeing the same mundane subs coming from the bench? If we had a couple of better players in that first eleven would be struggling to kill games off and leaving ourselves open to last 10 barmbardments of pressure?

It never seems to be the players fault in some's minds its automatically moyes fault. Using the Norwich game as an example, from his interview its clear he didn't ask the players to sit back last 10. Same with Oldham, yet some believe its an order from moyes!?!?

Moyes has Everton where they should be based on his squad. No better no worse but should be applauded for having us consistently where we should be year after year without the finance to move on. I think it's unrealistic to think someone will come in and do better dealt the same hand tbh.

As for the contract, it depends what's going on...if the players know he's doing it to push the board into spending, I'm sure there right behind him. We don't know the exact reasons and if or not its having an affect on the players. I don't think it is IMO. We just got 5/6 players who are having a bit of a dip which of course will affect us badly as these are good players not world class one's.

This is a team/squad that needs 4/5 players coming in to push on. If moyes wants to know he has the chance of doing that before he re-signs a new 5yr deal is that wrong? I dont think so...
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From reading what Jagielka said the other day I really don't think the players are arsed if he stays or goes. Which is the best way to be I reckon.

I agree with you though.

People are all very quick to moan at Moyes and his 'tactics'. Hell, i'm one of them. Winds me up a treat. But he has done well with what he's had.

It just all feels a but stale at the moment. The same things over and over, its no wonder nothing changes.

A change could do us good (Sheryl Crow)
 
ijjysmith said:
People are all very quick to moan at Moyes and his 'tactics'. Hell, i'm one of them. Winds me up a treat. But he has done well with what he's had.

It just all feels a but stale at the moment. The same things over and over, its no wonder nothing changes.

A change could do us good (Sheryl Crow)
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Thats probably how 90% of us feel at the moment, i feel our play is very predictable and sometimes close to boring and stale, if Moyes goes i will wish him all the best for the future but i do feel we need a change to get this Great club back in the right direction.
 
I think Moyes let his feelings be known to the board prior to January; If you don't back me, then I won't sign a new contract. But the board didn't back him, so he hasn't signed a new contract, which is fair enough, IMO

I've had enough of Moyes. I've had enough of his BS rhetoric and small time mentality. However, whoever our new manager is will be told that you HAVE to work under these circumstances (Kenwright circumstances) and therefore you're just going to get more of the same; i.e a manager who comes in without being expected to achieve anything, a manager that gets praised for finishing 7th, and a manager who will be told that he shouldn't have taken the Everton job on if he expected to be backed with money, because that no longer happens at Everton, because Everton are now a small club.
 
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