2025/26 Adam Aznou

Why not? McNeil is and he offers from zero to nothing.
Or we playing attacking players for their defensive duties, Sean Dyche style.
We have young players in those spots that are already not playing. One that we made a significant financial commitment to. Why would we put a young defender there?
 
I don't expect lots from Aznou if he was to get game time but surely it was worth giving him a try at times? His only minutes have been positive and when you look at the left back situation it's bizarre that he hasn't had a sniff.

Rohl made a positive impact in his last showing but hes been left in the cold even when the games been crying out for legs in midfield.

Harrison Armstrong.. I can't even begin to try and understand why Moyes has done what he has with him.

Rohl, Armstrong, Tim, Alcaraz, Patterson.. All of these players were part of the team that picked up points in that spell where we had AFCON, suspensions/injuries and they all did well. I'd argue we played our best football of the season around them times.

Moyes' current 'stability' is crippling the future.
 
To be honest after the Roma pre-season game, and just how out of water he looked and his build/age and knowing Moyes - I didn't expect the lad to get a sniff.

He could be terrible, he could be nowhere near the Prem - but you then have to ask why on earth we signed him.

No way that signing is going to plan - the lad is clearly not happy/I'm sure he'd leave tomorrow if he could.
Part of me hopes that we are being shrewd and identifying younger players who we think have talent but aren't quite ready and allowing them time to bed in and work on aspects of their game. It could leave us really strong in a few years time.

But, given the way that almost none of the signings we have made in the summer or winter have been used (despite very obvious opportunities to do so) just makes me think there's a disconnect between Moyes and the rest of the leadership about what the strategy is.

We risk going into next season with a core of aging players (between Keane, Tarkowski and Gueye it's 102 years) and a raft of expensive younger players who have been given no development opportunity whose value has dropped from, what has been in some instances, quite hefty fees.
 
We have young players in those spots that are already not playing. One that we made a significant financial commitment to. Why would we put a young defender there?
Because he has a lot of pace and is direct something we massively lack, he would also have Myko behind him who doesnt cross the halfway line so his defensive duties would be minimal which i guess is the reason he doesnt get a sniff.

We dont have a perfect formula on that side, far from it, so why not try? Its way too risky for wee Davey

Im not saying he would be amazing or even good, but lets at least try it, i mean what have we got to lose?
 
I think you'd hope he'd force his way in by this point, but he hasn't. He's clearly the fourth choice LB (when all are healthy), and has been since the beginning of the season. We've been playing Keane at LCB, and while he's done well I don't think it's smart to throw an underdeveloped teenager next to him.

There are plenty of things to hammer Moyes over, I'm just not sure this is one of them.
I'm not using it to hammer Moyes, i'm just saying I think it's daft to act like this has all gone according to plan - there's just absolutely no way it has. I just can't accept that a club with one left back (known for his attacking deficiencies) chose to go and spend a relatively decent sum on an attacking young full international with top level experience and planned not to have used him AT ALL over the course of an entire season. I think it's just bonkers to act like that's what was expected to happen when we signed him to be honest.
 
So, this plan, of which was always the plan - included hiding it from the player?

He's the same age/older than some on your list there.

Some plan, this. I hope we don't repeat this type of plan this summer.
I think that what's become very clear over the course of the season is that there wasn't really any clear plan last summer. We knew we had to sign a lot of players and we didn't have a recruitment team in place to do it coherently.

That's why we ended up with a few obvious Moyes picks (KDH, Grealish, possibly Rohl) and then some ones that seem to be us trying to mimic Brentford and look at promising young players (Barry, Aznou, Dibling). We all knew Moyes was obviously never going to play someone like Aznou. Barry was a hit and hope. Dibling never made any sense, and that was even before we signed Grealish. All of them ended up here because we didn't fully commit to any one way of doing things.

In the end, we just fumbled through it and, to Moyes' credit, he's managed to improve things in spite of the situation/the club/himself (delete to suit your own opinion).
 
I'm not using it to hammer Moyes, i'm just saying I think it's daft to act like this has all gone according to plan - there's just absolutely no way it has. I just can't accept that a club with one left back (known for his attacking deficiencies) chose to go and spend a relatively decent sum on an attacking young full international with top level experience and planned not to have used him AT ALL over the course of an entire season. I think it's just bonkers to act like that's what was expected to happen when we signed him to be honest.
I don't have a flow chart of the club's "plan" for him, but I never thought he was a significant part of this season's squad. I thought that was made clear when he was acquired and in the preseason. Does giving him a few token minutes put him back on whatever the plan is? Unlikely.

His experience is completely overblown, and if he wants to leave that sucks, but I wish him well. But he's left Barca and Bayern, what's next?

They didn't spend a decent sum on him, it's peanuts. There's virtually no risk there, I'm sure they could sell him for a similar fee tomorrow.

Compare that to Dibling, again I have no flow chart, who is so far off plan that it's troublesome for the player, manager and recruiting staff.

Dibling is a disaster. Rohl, disaster. Armstrong, disaster. Aznou just doesn't register, but I seem to be in the minority.
 
Proper weird thread this, the lad can't even make the bench ahead of Travers, King, Coleman and Patterson yet people still think he'd tear it up.

I think most people don't necessarily think he'd be a world beater mate, just are very surprised that he hasn't been given more of a go when our starting left back is very poor going forward. And the one time he was given a go, he made a big impact.
 
He is probably the 1 player Bar KDH that you could recoup the spend on.
though we would be the 3rd club that he didn't make an Impression on.
Erroneous claim. This would be the 1st club where he ‘didn’t make an impression on’

He was 16 at Barça when he chose to leave despite being prioritized and offered his 1st professional contract

He was 19 at Bayern when he chose to leave despite being prioritized and with a contract

He will be 20 at the end of this season with Everton and I suspect most believe he would choose to leave despite being under contract where I am certain the player would say Moyes didn’t make an impression on him either, like many other young players before him
 
Erroneous claim. This would be the 1st club where he ‘didn’t make an impression on’

He was 16 at Barça when he chose to leave despite being prioritized and offered his 1st professional contract

He was 19 at Bayern when he chose to leave despite being prioritized and with a contract

He will be 20 at the end of this season with Everton and I suspect most believe he would choose to leave despite being under contract where I am certain the player would say Moyes didn’t make an impression on him either, like many other young players before him
If he is choosing to leave 2 of the biggest clubs in Europe then that's a concern about him isn't it?
 
Erroneous claim. This would be the 1st club where he ‘didn’t make an impression on’

He was 16 at Barça when he chose to leave despite being prioritized and offered his 1st professional contract

He was 19 at Bayern when he chose to leave despite being prioritized and with a contract

He will be 20 at the end of this season with Everton and I suspect most believe he would choose to leave despite being under contract where I am certain the player would say Moyes didn’t make an impression on him either, like many other young players before him
You know the lad better than me mate, I only know about 15mins of him.
As long as he's with us and he shows a good attitude than I'll back him, but say he does push for a move that would still be 3 clubs whichever way you look at it. Is that Attitude or Ability..

At his age he should know he has to fight for a place.
 
I think you'd hope he'd force his way in by this point, but he hasn't. He's clearly the fourth choice LB (when all are healthy), and has been since the beginning of the season. We've been playing Keane at LCB, and while he's done well I don't think it's smart to throw an underdeveloped teenager next to him.

There are plenty of things to hammer Moyes over, I'm just not sure this is one of them.
What are you basing that on?
 
We have young players in those spots that are already not playing. One that we made a significant financial commitment to. Why would we put a young defender there?
So the argument is: we are already making a mess of the transfers we made and the development of young players, so why would we try and do anything positive with someone lower down the pecking otder? AND SOMEHOW WE ARE OKAY WITH THIS AND MOYES GETS A PASS?🤣
 

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