A fair bit of love for Ronald on this table

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Utter myth.

The players were here, they just refused to play. The 'kin cowards. And the legacy Koeman inherited also included the best striker in the PL and aplayer like Barkley who is one of the best in this league.

That myth will not hold water and won't be allowed to stand.

Try again.
ROTFL lol
 
ROTFL lol
And the "ROTFL or PMSL" defence won't wash either. These players are the ones who largely got 5th then 10th then 11th and now 7th.

The "mess" was made by the same players who got the record number of PL points and just got us (God forgive me for repeating the idiotic phrase) Best of the Rest.

Ergo "the Martinez mess" and the "major reconstruction job" is an utter myth.
 
And the ROTFL or PMSL defence won't wash either. These players are the ones who largely got 5th then 10th then 11th and now 7th.

The "mess" was made by the same players who got the record number of PL points and just got us (God forgive me for repeating the idiotic phrase"
Take of your blue tinted specs Davek, I'm sick of hearing it, actually no I'm not your hilarious and give me a good chuckle. We are best of the rest for a reason, we are not good enough to be in amongst the best right now.
 
Ridiculous analysis.

CL football as opposed to securing 'best of the rest'.

Pulis has done a better job than Koeman.
Which jobs that ? Grouting his bathroom tiles mayhap? I doubt that, the Dutch are masters of ceramic tiling as well as football.
 
Utter myth.

The players were here, they just refused to play. The 'kin cowards. And the legacy Koeman inherited also included the best striker in the PL and aplayer like Barkley who is one of the best in this league.

That myth will not hold water and won't be allowed to stand.

Try again.

I thought your view was that the players were poor and that made it impossible for Martinez?

I can't keep up...
 
I thought your view was that the players were poor and that made it impossible for Martinez?

I can't keep up...
No mate. I've been consistent all along. The players needed to be upgraded at the end of Martinez's first season if we were to build on 5th. But the players we retained were no way a midtable outfit...which has been proven this season by getting comfortable top half.

They downed tools and should never EVER be forgiven for it.
 
And taking a defense from leaking 55 goals in a season to 41....... That was not about cowards, that's called organisation and knowing what your supposed to do.
 
No mate. I've been consistent all along. The players needed to be upgraded at the end of Martinez's first season if we were to build on 5th. But the players we retained were no way a midtable outfit...which has been proven this season by getting comfortable top half.

They downed tools and should never EVER be forgiven for it.

Thanks for explaining, good to know.
 
I thought your view was that the players were poor and that made it impossible for Martinez?

I can't keep up...

Don't be dense. The players were brilliantly assembled by Martinez. They were also terrible, which is why Martinez brilliantly led them to fifth in his first season.

Don't know if you realise but that year we amassed our all time record points total. The next two seasons we finished in the bottom half of the table because the players wee amazing due to Martinez but refused to play to their amazing capabilities because Baines is a rat.

Now the players are still amazing unless Koeman has either bought them or coached them in any way, thus making them rubbish because Dutchman.
 
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