6 + 2 Point Deductions

[matty1878]

I've got sympathy for them, but rather them than us obviously

mate have sympathy for no other club

 

[john jako]

I had to get the dictionary out twice and am only in the first page of the report. What’s an Everton?

Mad you lot. Mondays are bad enough than delving into football finances.

 

[Furey1878]

My reading of this decision is that pretty much any breach will be punished by a points deduction (of some level).

i think it's potentially quite bad for us moving forward. I think they've set a precedent here today, and not a good one for us. I find it hard to see how Everton or Forest don't lose points.

If it's 2 points (2/3s of 6), we can absorb that this season. If it's another 6, we can probably better Luton's points return between now and the end of the season. If Forest get done by at least the same margin, it gives us an improved chance.

We cannot breach again though, there's no guarantee the next 3 teams that come up will be as bad as the 3 who came up this season. And given we will again have little to no spending power again, I don't fancy our chances of dealing with further deductions.

 

[chrissyjack]

No more pics of Bill Murray , now

 

[Bayboy]

I think it's fair to say that, given all the circs, they've given us the bare minimum.

 

[efcfanwirral]

but lashing money to it was an on the pitch advantage not even similar to us

You could take any of the £20m's we spent in that time on players like Patterson and interchange them with the £20m stadium loan dispute.

its all wrong, the idea that you can't spend your own money to compete is mental, but all things being equal under the rules part of our losses were player signings, just like Forest.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Given the independent commissions don't accept any mitigating factors then Forest don't have a case with their argument regarding the Johnson sale. They will get at least 6 points and I think it will be even more - 8 points at the very least would be my prediction.

I think Forest will be relegated.

The one thing that makes me slightly nervous about that is how keen they were to fit in with EFL precedents and Sheffield Wednesday were allowed significant mitigation for the sale of their stadium after the relevant period, it halved their sanction.

That will be Forest’s argument but there is obviously a massive difference between the sale of a fixed asset and a player, especially when they played him for three games this season.

 

[efcfanwirral]

Oh I agree, in a just world though everyone would be treated equally. Frankly I'd love City to get a -60 points and see how much the media patronizes them like they did to us trying to act like the deduction is good actually.

You're right though, we and Forest will get it, ultimately it'll relegate Forest and they'll put a rule in place because that punishment shouldn't happen to fans anymore, despite the fact that they couldn't give a toss about fans, it'd just be about the money that City and Chelsea generate.

Mad thing is if it was a season like this they'd have an outside chance of staying up!

 

[kenada_blue]

They asked Masters about this in that parliamentary hearing and he said all clubs agreed to it so if that’s our argument it won’t stand for long

Did they agree for how the calculations of the punishments were laid out?

I don't think they did. I think they just agreed on some FFP rules.

 

[MisterJ]

Unless they are actually idiots and actually need disciplining/sacking themselves!


I think we go and we go hard after them now, they have shown their true colours and it isnt looking good for them

Hit em Harder than ever now

After the second hearing and any subsequent appeal (if needed), then totally agree

 

[matty1878]

good bye Luton
good bye Nottingham
good bye Brentford

so are burnley and sheff u ghosts?

 

[mikel_88]

But in reality Forest signed players to try to compete in the league, same as us. Its the rules that are wrong, not individual clubs.

True but with this case the 2nd will show more we have cut costs down, forest on the other hand have not till this season. They have overspent the three seasons,

 

[HalfTimeSayers]

forest our going to be hit big
if true about there spend

Sounds like max of 8. Clearly implies a single PSR charge can’t be penalised the same as administration. But they have no mitigations, no evidence of trying to improve things. Maybe get a single point knocked off for Nunos beard.

 

[Walken]

mate have sympathy for no other club

Its not WWII Matty

 

[Lloydaldo11]

They’ll slap four on for the second charge.

Utter shambles and are that much of a mess they’ve copied the EFLs framework because they didn’t have one.

Either way, we need to start winning games. Saturday and other results through the season haven’t helped.

3 points needed on Saturday now minimum