#27 Years/NSNOW/#AllTogetherNow Fan Campaign

[UltraVires]

Jazz Bal is the chair. He was in USA with the team on the tour.

Their is one.

The club held a role in the selection process of who can be put up to be voted for.

Are you saying he paid to go and watch the team in the USA or he was given a freebie by the club in terms of travel/accommodation costs?

 

[jinkyali]

Are you saying he paid to go and watch the team in the USA or he was given a freebie by the club in terms of travel/accommodation costs?

You'd have to ask him that.

Its not independent though, the club have a say in who can be appointed.

 

[UltraVires]

No.

And therein lies the problem. The group is just a random collection of a small minority of fans.

Perhaps I am out of the loop but I have no idea how you would even join or who is currently a member?

 

[Toff33Blues99]

Oh please…
Regular top six gets a
A decent cup run is winning a cup not pluckily going out at the quarter final stage, no tick for that
One cup final that we lost, no tick for that either.
Finished top four once, is hardly a benchmark of success either, no tick.
Financially well run and secure… we had to sell Rooney to keep afloat and were loaded with debt, no tick for those either.

Haha that's laughable. No arguing with someone who speaks like unless we won the Champ League then it's a total failure, the only thing that comes through in that post is an irrational hatred for a fellow blue who has done more than you will ever do

 

[Daytripper]

Or and call me crazy here, the fans could input through the defined channels that are accepted by the club.

Doing anything but using the channels accepted by the club is urinating against the wind as you put it.

Then do it. Let’s all do it.

 

[UltraVires]

You'd have to ask him that.

Its not independent though, the club have a say in who can be appointed.

The club can't veto anyone as far as I am aware.

There is a criteria to be put forward and from what I have seen, part of that criteria relates to experience and skills to ensure the FAB have a wide range of views, skills and experience just like any other board. You wouldnt want 10 board members all of whom having extensive marketing backgrounds and nothing else for example. Similarly, you wouldnt want 10 board members who are middle aged men.

 

[Toff33Blues99]

Oh I'd never claim that he deliberately picked bad managers or was trying to set us up to fail. That would require long term planning. Something we haven't had at this club since the 80's. No, Kenwright hasn't deliberately played his part in bringing us to this point. He did it via a string of ludicrous mistakes that could've been avoided had he not shut down those daring to question him, like the time he banned AGM's for years.......

We didn't achieve anything under Kenwright pre Moshiri. We still just existed. You've been conned into believing that us hanging around the top 6 and occasionally reaching cup semifinals is a substitution for actual success. It isn't and never will be. Its better then now? Sure, but it was still crap. We just existed then too with very little hope of things getting better.

As for Moshiri, who brought him into the club? Who sold the club to him after years and years of wittering on about searching the earth to find the perfect man to run the club and take us forward? We got sold by one moronic egomaniac to another moronic egomaniac. If Moshiri has been a disaster (and he has) then its a reflection on Kenwright for selling the club to him and then standing back while the man brought us to the brink of ruin. Even if he's a helpless bystander that could do nothing about Moshiri destroying us then why has he not spoken out? Because his silence makes him an accomplice as far as I'm concerned.

Don't recall many complaints the day Moshiri arrived or when he started flashing the cash. Like us all Bill doesn't have the benefit of hindsight. To even remotely blame him for is embarrassing

 

[jinkyali]

The club can't veto anyone as far as I am aware.

There is a criteria to be put forward and from what I have seen, part of that criteria relates to experience and skills to ensure the FAB have a wide range of views, skills and experience just like any other board. You wouldnt want 10 board members all of whom having extensive marketing backgrounds and nothing else for example. Similarly, you wouldnt want 10 board members who are middle aged men.

Its all pointless though isn't it when the club have a say in whom can be elected.

Its not independent and is driven by whom the club decide is suitable to be put forward.

 

[UltraVires]

Its all pointless though isn't it when the club have a say in whom can be elected.

Its not independent and is driven by whom the club decide is suitable to be put forward.

I think if you look on the FAB section you would be surprised at the separation there appears to be i.e verified voting so there cannot be any suggestion of tampering and certainly no mention of the club having the power of veto.

Additionally, you suggested Jazz Bal may have been on the take and I have only heard him speak once or twice but to suggest he is getting favourable treatment is serious and if true, he would be in violation of the code of conduct which reads:

“FAB members should not solicit or accept hospitality, goods, services, gifts or any other benefit, that may compromise either their position or the FAB, or may lead others to perceive that the integrity of the FAB member has been compromised. An exception of this is in circumstances when working meals or refreshments are provided.”

Like I say, if you have any evidence that any members independence is compromised, please provide the evidence so we can all see it

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Don't recall many complaints the day Moshiri arrived or when he started flashing the cash. Like us all Bill doesn't have the benefit of hindsight. To even remotely blame him for is embarrassing

We didn't complain about Moshiri arriving because many of us wrongly believed that it would be the end of Kenwright and his time here. We were wrong.

We didn't complain because we believed that after years and years of Kenwright and the board supposedly searching for the perfect investor to take us forward they couldn't possibly of found a total dud. We were wrong.

We didn't complain because we believed that the people running the club knew better then us and had things under control. We were wrong.

We didn't complain because we took it for granted that Kenwright and the board had preformed basic due diligence when selling the club to this new guy. We were wrong.

In retrospect its embarrassing how wrong we where and how badly we fell for all the BS back then. What's embarrassing right now is apologists like you still desperately trying to justify the continued failings of our chairman and the board and the man they brought in to take us forward.

 

[jinkyali]

I think if you look on the FAB section you would be surprised at the separation there appears to be i.e verified voting so there cannot be any suggestion of tampering and certainly no mention of the club having the power of veto.

Additionally, you suggested Jazz Bal may have been on the take and I have only heard him speak once or twice but to suggest he is getting favourable treatment is serious and if true, he would be in violation of the code of conduct which reads:

“FAB members should not solicit or accept hospitality, goods, services, gifts or any other benefit, that may compromise either their position or the FAB, or may lead others to perceive that the integrity of the FAB member has been compromised. An exception of this is in circumstances when working meals or refreshments are provided.”

Like I say, if you have any evidence that any members independence is compromised, please provide the evidence so we can all see it

Shortlisting panel has EFC Head of Governance on it.

Its not independent. End.

 

[BenToffee79]

Haha that's laughable. No arguing with someone who speaks like unless we won the Champ League then it's a total failure, the only thing that comes through in that post is an irrational hatred for a fellow blue who has done more than you will ever do

Invested £0 trousered £40m
Injected a losing culture the club won’t recover from
Said his board (2nd highest paid board in the premier league ) is revered throughout the land
Overseen three failed stadium moves
Told everyone 14yrs ago the bullens wouldn’t pass a safety certificate to try push s move to take Everton out of the city boundary next to a Tesco
Rebuffed approaches from Sheik Mansours for the club
Accepted Moshiri’s offer which was less than Charles Noells and John Moores offer because Moshiri kept him in position.
A man single handidly responsible for not one trophy parade since the internet was born

What’s he done again?

 

[bluejohn66]

And therein lies the problem. The group is just a random collection of a small minority of fans.

Perhaps I am out of the loop but I have no idea how you would even join or who is currently a member?

Invested £0 trousered £40m
Injected a losing culture the club won’t recover from
Said his board (2nd highest paid board in the premier league ) is revered throughout the land
Overseen three failed stadium moves
Told everyone 14yrs ago the bullens wouldn’t pass a safety certificate to try push s move to take Everton out of the city boundary next to a Tesco
Rebuffed approaches from Sheik Mansours for the club
Accepted Moshiri’s offer which was less than Charles Noells and John Moores offer because Moshiri kept him in position.
A man single handidly responsible for not one trophy parade since the internet was born

What’s he done again?

Yeah the rebuff of the City owners all those years ago is frankly unbelievable. Just think where we would be now, probably the biggest team in the world!! And the envy of every football club in this country. Instead we're looking down the barrel of ANOTHER relegation fight and all because of a Kin Trainset !!

 

[roy vernon]

I don't know Paul or Esk personally, but, I've been around this forum for a while now and I remember him being a very good poster who, occasionally got some very good itk stuff. Unfortunately for him, he went all out on the prospective signing of Alex Witsell, 'Witsell is ours' . He was either given bad information deliberately by somebody at the club, or, as often happens in these cases, things changed at the last minute, either way, it left him looking stupid.

That being said, he is putting his head over the parapet again and calling out our abject board of directors. For my money, I don't care whether he signs his full name and provides an apostille copy of his passport, or whether he continues to preserve a certain amount of his privacy, he is at least trying to bring people to account and fair play to him. This current chairman and his cronies and our current owner have made me fall out of love with Everton, they will never stop me being an Evertonian though. So bad cess to the board and fair play to the 27 years crowd.

 

[mahermi1]

Haha that's laughable. No arguing with someone who speaks like unless we won the Champ League then it's a total failure, the only thing that comes through in that post is an irrational hatred for a fellow blue who has done more than you will ever do

Think you are definitely over reacting to that post lad, where has the poster said " unless we won the Champions league" ? You said that not him, top 6 is what he stated. Irrational hatred again there are many Evertonians, who don't like what Everton have become under his long stewardship, who don't like the lies he's spouted over the years, personally I don't care much for him and won't miss him at all when he eventually leaves us. Tell me if a business fails, like Everton have done the last 27 years, who should carry the can ?