Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

[Ruairi77]

I'm not quite sure you are getting this mate. I'm not from the US. I don't get a vote. Therefore, I'm not voting on any policy.

I've stated my case a few times now, but here it goes.

The media narrative against Trump and for Harris is bad. For everyone. That's my 1st point.

2nd point is that because of this narrataive and by extension, your TDS hatred for 1 candidate, they have allowed 2 absolute imbeciles to be in a position that is beyond them for 4 years, and now they are doing everything they can to make sure that 1 of them, and their own newly appointed imbecile, gets another 4 years. If they do get their own way, then there really is no point in voting.

3rd, despite the fact that you hate Trump, you cannot seriously think that Senile, doesnt know what day it is Biden, and lying, phoney, flip flopping chameleon Kamala are actually good choices to run anything. You just want anything but Trump, and seemingly, anything as long as it has blue tie.

Even with all the interference run by the powers that be and MSM, they have still somehow showed themselves up. They are awful.

You yourself are voting on hatred, not policy. So don't pretend you're not.

how do you not see that Trump and Farage are cut from the exact same cloth.
Steve Bannon, JR Mogg, Throw in a dash of Tommy Robinson.
Just all different shades of the far right rainbow.
How do you not see this?

 

[emir]

@Ruairi77 What's your answer??

 

[Rita_Poon]

how do you not see that Trump and Farage are cut from the exact same cloth.
Steve Bannon, JR Mogg, Throw in a dash of Tommy Robinson.
Just all different shades of the far right rainbow.
How do you not see this?

 

[Jcr1878]

Lol you could see this one coming a mile away

 

[BlueTX]

 

[Ruairi77]

@Ruairi77 What's your answer??

No, It's not a fair bet.

You use one or two threads on this forum to talk nonsense and wind people up.

I post on various sub forums on this forum.
I use it for Everton news and chats
I read the posts in the ale house.
I pay a subscription fee.
I've been posting here for 15 years (christ!)

It's an Everton Forum Emir, They're a storied football club from the north west of England who've spent longer in the top flight than any other club.

 

[BlueTX]

 

[Wizard]

I'm not quite sure you are getting this mate. I'm not from the US. I don't get a vote. Therefore, I'm not voting on any policy.

I've stated my case a few times now, but here it goes.

The media narrative against Trump and for Harris is bad. For everyone. That's my 1st point.

2nd point is that because of this narrataive and by extension, your TDS hatred for 1 candidate, they have allowed 2 absolute imbeciles to be in a position that is beyond them for 4 years, and now they are doing everything they can to make sure that 1 of them, and their own newly appointed imbecile, gets another 4 years. If they do get their own way, then there really is no point in voting.

3rd, despite the fact that you hate Trump, you cannot seriously think that Senile, doesnt know what day it is Biden, and lying, phoney, flip flopping chameleon Kamala are actually good choices to run anything. You just want anything but Trump, and seemingly, anything as long as it has blue tie.

Even with all the interference run by the powers that be and MSM, they have still somehow showed themselves up. They are awful.

You yourself are voting on hatred, not policy. So don't pretend you're not.

I’m also not from the US. But what happens in the US will affect us here in the UK. You appear to be basing your views on personality politics than actual policies.

I was just interested in whether you had a position on policies specifically rather than the politician. You clearly don’t.

I’m worried about how Trump will deal with Putin and potentially sacrifice Ukraine. I’m worried about the Gazans who he has made it pretty clear he has no regard for and what that means for the Middle East in general. Biden/Harris have not been great on this admittedly but there will be way more chance of some sort of peace in the Middle East than what will happen with Trump.

I’m worried about women’s rights in the US even though they don’t directly affect me. I’m worried about healthcare in the US given his approach to ACA.

I’m worried about legal immigrants in the US being victimised and used as a tool for him to gain support. Mass deportations on day 1.

I’m worried about the UK having to deal with him and his isolationist policies given we’ve already distanced ourselves from the EU. I’m worried what he will do to NATO.

I do hate Trump, but I am also very much looking at this from a policy point of view.

You hate Biden and Harris but haven’t offered anything other than you think one of them is old (who won’t be President anyway) and the other you think is a “phony, flip flopping liar”.

Come back to me when you have an opinion on policies rather than just not liking someone for who they are.

 

[wainy]

Could apply this to most US & UK politicians these days.

 

[Ruairi77]

I’m also not from the US. But what happens in the US will affect us here in the UK. You appear to be basing your views on personality politics than actual policies.

I was just interested in whether you had a position on policies specifically rather than the politician. You clearly don’t.

I’m worried about how Trump will deal with Putin and potentially sacrifice Ukraine. I’m worried about the Gazans who he has made it pretty clear he has no regard for and what that means for the Middle East in general. Biden/Harris have not been great on this admittedly but there will be way more chance of some sort of peace in the Middle East than what will happen with Trump.

I’m worried about women’s rights in the US even though they don’t directly affect me. I’m worried about healthcare in the US given his approach to ACA.

I’m worried about legal immigrants in the US being victimised and used as a tool for him to gain support. Mass deportations on day 1.

I’m worried about the UK having to deal with him and his isolationist policies given we’ve already distanced ourselves from the EU. I’m worried what he will do to NATO.

I do hate Trump, but I am also very much looking at this from a policy point of view.

You hate Biden and Harris but haven’t offered anything other than you think one of them is old (who won’t be President anyway) and the other you think is a “phony, flip flopping liar”.

Come back to me when you have an opinion on policies rather than just not liking someone for who they are.

great post!

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Whole forum is wild at the minute. Even if you pop into a seemingly innocuous threads about barges you are met with total chaos.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

He seems to be painting his face a deeper orange the last week or so. I wonder if it appeals to the Trumpets.

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

You did say Bootle, so i assume you meant me, so here goes.

I am absolutely not Right Wing. But i am finding myself becoming less and less left wing with some of the nonsense that just seems to get more extreme with each passing month.

And as you have rightly said, i have no "dog in the fight" as it were.

But as my initial post in this thread only a few short days ago suggests, and as I've tried to argue since, my stand is not against American people, but against the TDS. The biased media narrative, the lies and the campaigns designed to attack and manipulate opinions in one direction only. And for the last 9 years, there is clearly only 1 direction that has been.

I used an example recently of how i witnessed the media bias go after the character and integrity of Jeremy Corbyn, and it was not subtle.

But compared to what they've tried to do to Trump, it doesnt even scratch the surface.

He has been accused of every heinous thing imaginable, bullshit court cases brought with very little standing, every aspect of his character questioned and dragged through the mud and had attempts made on his life, all in an attempt to prevent someone they never wanted, someone that should never have been able to be where he got to, have power that they greedily kept to themselves in their odious little pit of elite corruption. And he won in spite of all that and he made them look silly. And that upset them. Especially that evil witch Clinton.

If all the media and powers that be, do so much to prevent, hinder, and destroy the possibility of it happening, it makes me question why. And the answer to that is the reason why is popular in the 1st place.

If you can't see that the reason he is as popular as he is, and why the heavily corrupted old guard, on both sides, hate him so much, despite loving him so much before he decided to run, is all because of this, then you are missing the point.

He is the antithesis to what has gone before. Which is why people believe in him and have hope. For real, lasting change. And thats why the powers hate it, and him.

The stupid thing is, if they hadn't gone after him as much as they did, he probably would've passed as inconsequential. But like Obi Wan Kenobi, they tried to strike him down and only made him more powerful.

But they went all in. They looked foolish, and now they are trying everything to stop it happening again.

The fact they are trying to do it with Kamala Harris though is just insanely baffling. She is awful in every way.



Absolutely not.

Mate. See a doctor. Urgently.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Mate. See a doctor. Urgently.

 

[Rita_Poon]

12 tries.

'kin tired!