Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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It's all part of the Stop The Steal 2024 argument. We were ahead in the polls, all the polls had us ahead. No way we can lose, it was rigged, etc, etc
I mean having read a little I think the betting has definitely been manipulated, then you see some allegations of poll manipulation but from listening to liberal podcasts I think there was a lot of talk he was doing ok in Pennsylvania with apathy playing a part .

Like Anything polls though polls are within the Margin of error and events will make relatively big changes .
 
Trump supporters based in the US don't follow Premier League soccer. If you really want to engage with Trump supporters, just go to your favorite NFL/college football board and you'll find plenty of them.
I know where to engage with Trump supporters and unfortunately i dont have to go to another teams message board.

And I know most on the right dont like soccer.
But it kinda baffles me that those not living in the US have such unshakeable views on this and really feel that they need to be heard from London, Cork, Helsinki, Bootle, or whereever Steve and Dyslexic are posting from...

It'd be like me going on a "thoughts on the match day planning at Goodison Park". I don't go to the game.
I'd read the thread and find it interesting to hear what match going blues have to say but I probably wouldnt weigh in.

There's plenty popping up this week, not paying any attention to what Americans on here have to say and just parroting what they read on their tailored Musk feed.
Not one of you has come on here and said "Interesting, didnt think of it that way, thanks for the info, etc."

Here in Boston Evertonians one of our founding members ran for congress in Maine for the GOP this year. He came very close in the primaries. When ever we meet up we have reasonable discussions because he doesn't carry on like the right wingers on here.

Just seems like a bunch of idealists sitting on line with little or nothing to lose, goading those with lots on the line.
 
I mean having read a little I think the betting has definitely been manipulated, then you see some allegations of poll manipulation but from listening to liberal podcasts I think there was a lot of talk he was doing ok in Pennsylvania with apathy playing a part .

Like Anything polls though polls are within the Margin of error and events will make relatively big changes .
It's a "liberal" phenomenon. The grind over every issue, always playing the pessimist. They will always act like the sky is falling, which makes how Trump and today's GOP treat everything worse - b/c it makes it seem more like Trump really IS winning in the polls, when at best Trump is in a dead heat
 
I know where to engage with Trump supporters and unfortunately i dont have to go to another teams message board.

And I know most on the right dont like soccer.
But it kinda baffles me that those not living in the US have such unshakeable views on this and really feel that they need to be heard from London, Cork, Helsinki, Bootle, or whereever Steve and Dyslexic are posting from...

It'd be like me going on a "thoughts on the match day planning at Goodison Park". I don't go to the game.
I'd read the thread and find it interesting to hear what match going blues have to say but I probably wouldnt weigh in.

There's plenty popping up this week, not paying any attention to what Americans on here have to say and just parroting what they read on their tailored Musk feed.
Not one of you has come on here and said "Interesting, didnt think of it that way, thanks for the info, etc."

Here in Boston Evertonians one of our founding members ran for congress in Maine for the GOP this year. He came very close in the primaries. When ever we meet up we have reasonable discussions because he doesn't carry on like the right wingers on here.

Just seems like a bunch of idealists sitting on line with little or nothing to lose, goading those with lots on the line.
I don't agree with this. Your analogy is false. Thanks to the US being the sole mega superpower on this Earth, the sitting American President affects everyone on this world including foreign wars, world economy, gas prices, stock market etc. It affects even the average Joe from Helsinki as you seem to quote as the next administration has a huge effect on NATO's future.
 

Keeping RFK on the ballot seems to be part of the reason...


Of the seven states rated as tossups by CNN, Michigan and Wisconsin are the only two where voters’ ballots still include Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. – the former independent candidate who suspended his bid for the presidency and threw his support behind Trump. In Michigan, Kennedy holds 3% support, and he stands at 1% in Wisconsin. Support for third-party and independent candidates overall runs highest in Michigan, with 6% of likely voters there saying they back a candidate other than Harris or Trump.
 
This statement is an oxymoron

Any modicum of normality will be gone

I know it will certainly hurt my mental health and the mental health of Mrs. PF. As well as that of many people close to me
Yeah, same here.
I think a lot of americans dont realize that most other countries have a political head and a representitive head of state. Like a Primeminister/King, primeminister/president.
In our case, a handfull of voters in a hand full of states get to choose which person has the responsibility of taking on both these jobs at the same time.
In Trumps case, he's completely abdicated the second role. Whatever about his domestic or foreign policies and his ability to form coalitions and govern successfully, he has no moral compass and is a repugnant human being. To have him as a figurehead for our kids for the next four years will be way worse than the first four and they were pretty damaging to the nation as a whole.
'It's not all about the economy stupid'
So I'll be heart broken that my kid has to grow from 6 years old to 10 with this POS in the ultimate leadership position.
 
Just finished this book

For anyone on this thread that cannot comprehend the political climate in the US right now, this is a must read. Very educational and spot on in so many ways. Many of us LIVE this every day through family, friends, and acquaintances. It's just life now.

Mrs PF footy just read Dying of Whiteness that, among other things, goes into detail about the health issues facing rural white Americans and how they continue to vote against their best interests and why that is the case. From what she has told me, some of the details of these books overlap

These books just help to drive home what's going on here, and why I'll fly off the handle when people start nitpicking all of the Democrats flaws, including Harris. We are so far beyond politics as usual it's hard to fathom, when the GOP lives in a completely different universe, and non-MAGA (Democrats and non-MAGA Republicans) are held to a completely different standard, because the media treats MAGA and Trump as the obvious jokes they are, but treat non-MAGA as the adults in the room held to a higher standard.

Infuriating
Agree. It is an excellent read and so relevant to what’s going on right now.
 
I don't agree with this. Your analogy is false. Thanks to the US being the sole mega superpower on this Earth, the sitting American President affects everyone on this world including foreign wars, world economy, gas prices, stock market etc. It affects even the average Joe from Helsinki as you seem to quote as the next administration has a huge effect on NATO's future.
Oh yea, for sure, but this is the election race and rather than taking anything anyone from America says onboard, they/you just come on here to goad and brag and repeat vacuous nonsense.
At least if is was someone from Milwaukee, or Charleston, or Little Rock posting about what they might be seeing at their presinct or why they were economically better off 4 years ago, it might make for an interesting chat.
But no, it's people with little or no experience of participating in the US political process posting nonsence in the hope of one upping a stranger who clearly has a lot more riding on this.
Also the PL is the mega super power league on this Earth so the analogy does stand.
 
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