Current Affairs 2017 General Election

2017 general election

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 24 6.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 264 71.0%
  • Tories

    Votes: 41 11.0%
  • Cheese on the ballot paper

    Votes: 35 9.4%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Total voters
    372
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I'm glad you like them - maybe you should vote Labour! But alas, as a liberal, they don't appeal to me.

As for corporation tax, I think this article is pretty fair on the impacts of increasing/decreasing it: https://www.ft.com/content/92017e4e-358b-11e7-bce4-9023f8c0fd2e

Can't read it. But I would expect nothing less from the FT than, companies will leave the UK if Corporation tax goes up. And companies will relocate to the UK because Corporation tax falls.
 
She has been worse than abject.

There are reports circulating that one of the London Bridge / Borough Market scum may have been someone else who we let go to Libya and fight.

There has been a pattern developed. Known 'radical' is allowed to leave the UK and fights against a regime the UK and the US don't like - Syria and Libya. Known 'radical' is then allowed back into this country and is not detained, even when they have been known to have fought with ISIS.

Why has this been allowed to happen under the Home Secretary Theresa May's watch?

Surely, she would have wanted to detain them 'human rights or no human rights'.
 
'Sensitive' UK terror funding inquiry may never be published

Investigation into foreign funding and support of jihadi groups operating in UK understood to focus on Saudi Arabia




Theresa May with crown prince Muhammad bin Nayef during her visit to Saudi Arabia in April. Photograph: Saudi Press Agency Handout/EPA


Jessica Elgot

Wednesday 31 May 2017 15.20 BSTLast modified on Wednesday 31 May 2017 18.08 BST

An investigation into the foreign funding and support of jihadi groups that was authorised by David Cameron may never be published, the Home Office has admitted.

The inquiry into revenue streams for extremist groups operating in the UK was commissioned by the former prime minister and is thought to focus on Saudi Arabia, which has repeatedly been highlighted by European leaders as a funding source for Islamist jihadis.

The investigation was launched as part of a deal with the Liberal Democrats in exchange for the party supporting the extension of British airstrikes against Islamic State into Syria in December 2015.

Tom Brake, the Lib Dem foreign affairs spokesman, has written to the prime minister asking her to confirm that the investigation will not be shelved.

The Observer reported in January last year that the Home Office’s extremism analysis unit had been directed by Downing Street to investigate overseas funding of extremist groups in the UK, with findings to be shown to Theresa May, then home secretary, and Cameron.

However, 18 months later, the Home Office confirmed the report had not yet been completed and said it would not necessarily be published, calling the contents “very sensitive”.

A decision would be taken “after the election by the next government” about the future of the investigation, a Home Office spokesman said.

In his letter to May, Brake wrote: “As home secretary at the time, your department was one of those leading on the report. Eighteen months later, and following two horrific terrorist attacks by British-born citizens, that report still remains incomplete and unpublished.

“It is no secret that Saudi Arabia in particular provides funding to hundreds of mosques in the UK, espousing a very hardline Wahhabist interpretation of Islam. It is often in these institutions that British extremism takes root.”

The contents of the report may prove politically as well as legally sensitive. Saudi Arabia, which has been a funding source for fundamentalist Islamist preachers and mosques, was visited by May earlier this year.

Last December, a leaked report from Germany’s federal intelligence service accused several Gulf groups of funding religious schools and radical Salafist preachers in mosques, calling it “a long-term strategy of influence”.

The Lib Dem leader, Tim Farron, said he felt the government had not held up its side of the bargain made ahead of the vote on airstrikes. The report must be published when it was completed, he insisted, despite the Home Office caution that information in the document would be sensitive.

“That short-sighted approach needs to change. It is critical that these extreme, hardline views are confronted head on, and that those who fund them are called out publicly,” he said.

“If the Conservatives are serious about stopping terrorism on our shores, they must stop stalling and reopen investigation into foreign funding of violent extremism in the UK.”

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THIS IS SERIOUS, KIDS! THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT ARE SUBVERTING DEMOCRACY BY KEEPING VERY IMPORTANT (AND, oh yeah, RATHER DAMAGING) INFORMATION FROM US!!

THIS IS NOT SOME CONSPIRACY-THEORY CLAPTRAP -IT'S REAL!!

Maybe May is scared this may be threatened again against the UK.

BAE: secret papers reveal threats from Saudi prince | World news ...

Or maybe it is this.


SAUDI ARABIA LAVISHES CONSERVATIVE U.K. OFFICIALS WITH GIFTS, TRAVEL, AND PLUM CONSULTANCIES

Lee Fang


June 4 2017, 12:00 p.m.

NEW FIGURES RELEASED by British Parliament show that, at a time when U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May’s ties to Saudi Arabia have become an election issue, conservative government officials and members of Parliament were lavished with money by the oil-rich Saudi government with gifts, travel expenses, and consulting fees.

Tory lawmakers received the cash as the U.K. backs Saudi Arabia’s brutal war against Yemen, the poorest country in the Middle East.

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has made the U.K.’s uneasy alliance with the Saudis an election issue, with voters going to the polls on June 8. The Tories’ ties to Saudi Arabia, Labour leaders charge, have resulted in record weapons sales — conservative governments have licensed £3.3 billion ($4.2 billion) in arms sales to the Saudi military since the onset of the Yemen campaign — and a reluctance to criticize human rights abuses.

While Tory politicians have defended the arms sales to Saudis as a move to shore up Britain’s allies in the region, Tory members of Parliament have collected £99,396 ($128,035) in gifts, travel expenses, and consulting fees from the government of Saudi Arabia since the Yemen war began.

The kingdom’s financial ties to Tory parliamentarians are detailed in the register of financial interests, a disclosure published by Parliament.

Some of the the Saudi kingdom’s largesse came in the form of gifts. Then-Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond, now the Chancellor of the Exchequer who has come under fire for defending a mass execution in Saudi Arabia that included a nonviolent government critic, accepted a watch from the Saudi ambassador worth £1,950 ($2,514). Tory MP Charlotte Leslie, who has presided over parliamentary debate regarding foreign policy in the Middle East, received a food basket from the Saudi Embassy with an estimated value of £500 ($644).

The Saudi Arabian government has also picked up the tab for four expense-paid junkets taken by Tory lawmakers to visit the kingdom since the Yemen war began. The costs for accommodation, travel, and meals for the lawmakers range from £2,888 ($3,724) to £6,722 ($8,668). At least 18 conservative lawmakers have participated in the trips, according to the register of financial interests.

Tory Rehman Chishti, one of the participants in a Saudi junket last year, was also paid £2,000 ($2,579) per month as an adviser to the King Faisal Center for Research and Islamic Studies, a state-backed think tank in Saudi Arabia. The arrangement began in February 2016.

The gift-giving appears to be part of an influence effort on both sides of the Atlantic. As the Intercept has reported, the Saudi Arabian government has rapidly expanded its lobbying presence in Washington, D.C., hiring consultants and public relations experts with close ties to President Donald Trump. Since 2015, the number of registered agents working for the Saudi Kingdom grew from 25 to 145 individuals.

The arms trade is one of several issues confronting Saudi Arabian officials. This week, The Guardian revealed that Prime Minister Theresa May’s conservative government has signaled that it will suppress a report on foreign funding for extremist groups, which is believed to document Saudi ties to Islamic fundamentalists".
 
How can anyone vote labour? Better to go for a massive conservative majority and labour can rebuild from scratch.

I cant fathom which demographic would vote labour...
 
How can anyone vote labour? Better to go for a massive conservative majority and labour can rebuild from scratch.

I cant fathom which demographic would vote labour...
What haha they have done an amazing job of re building after the Tony Blair years, a totally different party, a massive conservative majority would be a total disaster for the UK, not sure if you live over here mate but they have destroyed so many people's lives and will continue to do so
 
Zat, you have said some mental/weird stuff in the past but this, this is quite easily the worst.

The leadership had a massive negative vote against it yet Corbyn didn't quit
He has refused to address the terror situation and has been seen to have 'supported' or at least given a podium to terror organisations
Their entire pitch is to make everything 'free'....its like communist Russia (what happened to them?)
 
What haha they have done an amazing job of re building after the Tony Blair years, a totally different party, a massive conservative majority would be a total disaster for the UK, not sure if you live over here mate but they have destroyed so many people's lives and will continue to do so

Tony Blair and then Brown were both disasters (yet at the time people loved blair, especially labour voters)

Abbot has gone, she was a mind numbing choice in the first place and her replacement is anti-corbyn yet has only taken the post for her own ends.

Corbyn and the shadow chancellor are wolves in sheeps clothing.....

How are they to be trusted at all?

I'm overseas but if Labour get elected I would be selling everything I had in UK pronto as it would lead to a recession...

Actually a good thing for me as I could buy a super house in a couple of years if labour were in power....so cheap!
 
Tony Blair and then Brown were both disasters (yet at the time people loved blair, especially labour voters)

Abbot has gone, she was a mind numbing choice in the first place and her replacement is anti-corbyn yet has only taken the post for her own ends.

Corbyn and the shadow chancellor are wolves in sheeps clothing.....

How are they to be trusted at all?

I'm overseas but if Labour get elected I would be selling everything I had in UK pronto as it would lead to a recession...

Actually a good thing for me as I could buy a super house in a couple of years if labour were in power....so cheap!

tbh mate if you don't live here then it's not really effecting you tbf. jeremy corbyn can't do worse then Teresa may has. And all this labour bankrupts the country etc, well the tories are making people live like that now.
 
The leadership had a massive negative vote against it yet Corbyn didn't quit
He has refused to address the terror situation and has been seen to have 'supported' or at least given a podium to terror organisations
Their entire pitch is to make everything 'free'....its like communist Russia (what happened to them?)

Corbyn has dealt with all the lies, slurs and innuendos regarding the 'terror situation' and the podium he has shared with 'terror organisations'. As far as he supported 'terror organisations', he hasn't and doesn't.

You maybe want to read the Labour manifesto - For the many, not the few', the 'pitch isn't to make everything free'.
 
Potential long-odds value play here

YouGov voting intentions

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http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/orderedseats.html It's the 9th least-safe Tory seat on this list

It's 40/1 in lots of places for a bet that Labour will win.

Again, this is a value bet, just seems that 40/1 is a bit mad for a seat that polling intentions are that close in, should probably be a quarter of that. The range is massive though on the high / low, potentially you could get 36% / 50% here
 
How can anyone vote labour? Better to go for a massive conservative majority and labour can rebuild from scratch.

I cant fathom which demographic would vote labour...

Zat, you patently do not live in the UK do you?
As @Connor said, this has to be one of your wackier posts.
 
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