He's been part of Westminster for 30+ years. Everyone of them is imo what I just called them. Only someone with strong party allegiance would disagree. I don't. I'm waiting on proper leadership which is lacking globally.
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He's been part of Westminster for 30+ years. Everyone of them is imo what I just called them. Only someone with strong party allegiance would disagree. I don't. I'm waiting on proper leadership which is lacking globally.
I wouldn't write it off to that extent... the debate was awful, but there was an underlying message sent out firmly.
See, May calculated that there was no benefit to appearing as Corbyn's only strength is the cult of personality that has grew around him - so going head-to-head with someone remotely charismatic and actually human was a no-go, given that May is quite possibly a cyborg.
However, it's backfired in a way I don't think May anticipated. Rather than Corbyn getting the rub compared to May, he's simply got the rub by showing up. Because the lasting message from the Conservatives to the country after that was Theresa May does not give a toss about you and takes you for granted - vote, peons, vote!
I think that debate will swing a few votes Labours' way. That said, short of going on TV drunk, promising the death of every first born, kicking a puppy to death then signing off with a Hitler salute, May is going to win this election. But it could be a very modest increase in seats instead of the pummelling she really, really should be giving a Corbyn-led Labour.
Just go and gargle some mouth wash and spit it out while trying to speak, nobody would know the difference.
Have been impressed at times with Bartley her co leader comes across really well.
davek
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Turns out that Rudd's dad died a few days ago. She had the guts to place that one side and step up. Teresa May allowed her to because she has zero character and bottled it.
Shameful Prime Minister this.
tsubaki
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They do; they have a few safe seats in the north-west and west Wales where the electorate regularly vote them in. They did briefly threaten to break through like the SNP did when Blair tried to foist Davies and then Michael onto Welsh Labour, but when Morgan enforced reality on Blair they swiftly went away again.
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Can't think of a single redeeming feature about that Nuttall. Ashamed that he's from Liverpool.
ashwuk76
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Sad to hear dont wanna hear anyone going through that.
Is that really strong and stable from may? Pushing out someone who is probably grieving? Shameful decision from may.
davek
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The more you think about it the more it gets worse. That is an outrageous thing to ask of someone in Rudd's position.
Anyone with sense and humanity says: "No, you sit this out".
She is reprehensible.
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Crikey that is awful.
The Tory party on the whole may be looking at her as a future leader, I don't like her that much but prefer her to many of their high ranking politicians.
davek
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I feel sorry for anyone suffering that loss. However, she is a poor politician, imo. She proved that tonight...though obviously there were extenuating circumstances.
ashwuk76
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That was my thought too mate. How the hell could she send her out. As you say a decent caring person would have told her not to go and take it on herself.
Really shows the Tories don't care about anyone specially someone "on the team" if may treats her like that imagine how callous she will be with the rest of the country.
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She was never going to do that whilst the target of the campaign is Corbyn; people - especially Labour voters - like him, thats why he won their leadership election twice by miles and why when people actually see him (rather than viewing edited highlights of him from the media) his ratings go up. He is after all a bloke who lives in a normal house, who works on his allotment and who didn't cane the expenses when everyone else was.
The people she should have gone after are the Labour opposition, who are at least as (probably more) responsible for the party being divided, who are the reason why so much of the core Labour vote was disaffected, and who actually have a record to attack. She'd then be able to point out that, despite what is in the Labour manifesto, Corbyn wouldn't be likely to get much of it through because he probably wouldn't have the backbench support required and that he might not be able to form a government anyway. You also can't imagine that there would be that much solidarity from the Labour leadership if the likes of Woodcock, Gapes, and Blair were getting a shoeing every day on the campaign trail - Corbyn would almost certainly look to distance himself from them, which would make the disunity even more obvious.
Of course, what she has done is focused on Corbyn, the opposition have gone on strike (hoping to make Corbyn "own" the defeat) - so now Labour doesn't appear as disunited as it is and Corbyn and his supporters get their message out on live TV every day. It is a policy that is as successful as German battleship-building was at keeping Great Britain out of the First World War.
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