James Patrick
Player Valuation: £10m
After 19 games last 10 seasons
(Oldest first) 11, 7, 9, 8, 13, 7, 15, 19, 17, 16.
(Oldest first) 11, 7, 9, 8, 13, 7, 15, 19, 17, 16.
It's surely impossible to say that without knowing who's on the list? I would certainly be extremely disappointed if our recruitment department can't find 7 people in the entire world of football who are better right wingers than Isaac Heath.
I'm not sure I'd agree. We should have more than 4 or 5 players on our list. If we are moving on to those players, it should be because the very top players aren't available for us. I don't really see how that's panicking - that's pragmatism and the whole point of having plans and a varied target list.
For example, there are definitely more than 5 or 6 wide players who can improve us in the whole of world football. I'd say there's probably more like about 20 or 30, so we should have a lengthy list of targets.
If we can't get the very best players we want then that's disappointing, but equally not surprising, so we should be ready to move on quickly. That's how transfer windows work for mid level clubs.
I find the concept of "just move on" utterly stupid.
You spend months scouting players, looking into their background, dealing with the agents, the clubs, then just walk away when it gets a bit hard?
Its a loser attitude.
wandyr79
Player Valuation: £30m
Surely, the fact that we would have a list of players is the definition of not panicking. It is called planning.
If we never got any players on the list and then just went around asking random players to sign, that were never even looked at or considered as targets, that would be panicking. Going down a list of targets, that may be ordered in a number of ways, is most definitely not panicking.
If we never got any players on the list and then just went around asking random players to sign, that were never even looked at or considered as targets, that would be panicking. Going down a list of targets, that may be ordered in a number of ways, is most definitely not panicking.
Last season, pre-Moyes:
23/24 before the magical run of the last 5 games:
Nowhere near is just flat out not correct mate.
Frenk
Player Valuation: £35m
I support Moyes, he’s brought structure, discipline, and a work ethic. But at the same time, we have to ask the difficult question: is Moyes part of the problem now? Not necessarily in how he sets up the team or his tactical approach, but in terms of broader club ambition and our ability to attract top-tier talent.
Let’s be honest, if we’d brought in a manager with a higher profile, someone who carries more weight in the European game, would that have helped us secure the kind of players we’re targeting? Players at the top level want to be part of a project that excites them. They want to be developed, to challenge for trophies, and they’re drawn to managers who have a reputation for doing just that.
That’s not to say Moyes hasn’t done a good job, he has, particularly considering where we were when he returned. But in the modern game, perception matters. A manager’s profile can open doors, and persuade players who might otherwise look elsewhere. So yes, it’s a fair question. Maybe even a necessary one, if we truly want to move forward.
Let’s be honest, if we’d brought in a manager with a higher profile, someone who carries more weight in the European game, would that have helped us secure the kind of players we’re targeting? Players at the top level want to be part of a project that excites them. They want to be developed, to challenge for trophies, and they’re drawn to managers who have a reputation for doing just that.
That’s not to say Moyes hasn’t done a good job, he has, particularly considering where we were when he returned. But in the modern game, perception matters. A manager’s profile can open doors, and persuade players who might otherwise look elsewhere. So yes, it’s a fair question. Maybe even a necessary one, if we truly want to move forward.
No, Moyes isnt part of the problem, its not his job to sign players, hes in America training the team and getting them ready for games.
We have a whole recruitment team, its THEIR job to sign players.
Marius57
Player Valuation: £60m
So you could argue just looking at that, that the last 4 seasons would be potential relegation threatened.
But Allardyce was supposedly brought into save us but despite being in like 13th when he took over (in relegation zone when Koeman was sacked).
Then Carlo took us over when we were in 16th place but Silva had been sacked when in 18th and in relegation zone.
Do those 2 seasons count as relegation threatened?
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
Just a guess but I don't think they've been turned down by dozens of players, more that they've made selective approaches and been rebuffed.
I agree completely with your post. The entire premise of the window for me was to give ourselves sufficient options so we could tick off most if not all of our needs, one by one. Compromise and pragmatism are, or should be, expected realities for a club in our position.
It seems to me they are floundering because they have failed to identify enough players per position who would improve us. Either that, or there is some reticence from Moyes to consider the options.
Frenk
Player Valuation: £35m
But why don’t they want to come? Other team who came up and those that finished below us or just above us are signing players.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
If you end up not signing anyone then that’s worse, certainly if you’re in the position of currently having not one singular player who can play in that position.
Blast_of_Cannock
Player Valuation: £15m
I seem to remember you calling Moyes a 'company man'. Always toeing the line. Managing expectations by spouting the company mantra.
Now he's spoke out against 'the company ' you're still slagging him off. More u-turns than Sir Kier...
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