Thanks Phil. Can agree to disagree. I don't think that's unfair. I will call out tosh and lies when I see it though. People seem to be insinuating I've said that there were no reds trying to get in with fake tickets - or absolving them of responsibility - which I'm not doing at all!
I just think authorities lying, as they have done, is sickening, especially because it doesn't take much for English/British fans in Europe to get stick as it is.
Look at what Rangers and Frankfurt have managed to do after the Europa League final, for example. Another UEFA showpiece event that was completely mismanaged. Anyway, I only logged back in to reply to
@spectateur because he's a good poster too!