Everton Summer Transfer Thread - 2022

[catcherintherye]

They are both a lot better than Gray and Gordon currently.

Fair enough mate. From the little I've seen, which I must admit is Thursday night, I wouldn't swap either for Gordon myself, or Richarlison.

 

[Simon Buttle]

@Simon Buttle what do you make of Hull's centre back, Greaves?

Yeah he is decent and defo one to put on the list, if others don't work out. I like Worrall myself tbh.

 

[Goat]

They are both a lot better than Gray

No

 

[MikeH72]

Fair enough mate. From the little I've seen, which I must admit is Thursday night, I wouldn't swap either for Gordon myself, or Richarlison.

Eze was fantastic, as opposed to Gordon who was crap in that game, and I’m a Gordon fan. Olise didn’t play as he’s injured.

 

[MikeH72]

No

Gray has had about 4 good games this season.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Fair point.

I suppose it's what premium you put on someone knowing the league really isnt it mate?

That Edersons numbers looked very good though.

Football is football though, right? (Unless it's soccer.) Anyone will take ~ 6 months to adjust to a new setting, even experience PL guys will need to adjust to a new squad. I just don't really buy the "knows the league" trope, it's mindless gibberish easily perpetuated by the goofs in TV studios, and there are plenty of examples of players who didn't "know the league" and got on just fine. That Mykolenko kid, for instance, appears to be way better than Dunc said on the train...

 

[Goat]

Gray has had about 4 good games this season.

He assisted a goal worth 150m.

 

[catcherintherye]

Eze was fantastic, as opposed to Gordon who was crap in that game, and I’m a Gordon fan. Olise didn’t play as he’s injured.

No he didnt.

Gordon was poor (exhausted) but felt Eze went missing a bit too.

You're right that I havent seen enough of him, and goals is a simplistic measure, but I'm not sure hes been a roaring success yet.

 

[MACCA75]

So, no prime Messi for you? Or Silva, or a Zola, Iniesta? Aguero? Tevez? Suppose mo Modric either?

Absolute top class technical players with other top class technical players in the same team is great.

But if you stick someone like Bernard in our side then even though he’s good technically (not top level but good) he just gets overwhelmed as he can’t get time and space on the ball.

 

[catcherintherye]

Football is football though, right? (Unless it's soccer.) Anyone will take ~ 6 months to adjust to a new setting, even experience PL guys will need to adjust to a new squad. I just don't really buy the "knows the league" trope, it's mindless gibberish easily perpetuated by the goofs in TV studios, and there are plenty of examples of players who didn't "know the league" and got on just fine. That Mykolenko kid, for instance, appears to be way better than Dunc said on the train...

To a point yes.

We have seen a lot of players brought in, and flopped though. The PL is a very powerful, intense league, with hard games most weeks.

I think the key is, are you paying the right price for that premium.

 

[SerenityNigh]

I think this explains the Tarkowski stuff really. We are losing a lot of wages, so frees and loans can probably be considered.

Build the squad with reasonable free transfers and loans early on, the add developable talent later after Richy/DCL are sold.

 

[SerenityNigh]

To a point yes.

We have seen a lot of players brought in, and flopped though. The PL is a very powerful, intense league, with hard games most weeks.

I think the key is, are you paying the right price for that premium.

What I also meant to add is you can't always tell what you've got until you've got it... there's so much misinformation with transfers, but in the end a guy shows up to the training ground and everyone else can tell immediately if it's going to work. There's always an element of risk in most transfers, unfortunately.

 

[ToffeeTim]

He assisted a goal worth 150m.

Technically no, because we would still have finished 2 points ahead of Burnley if we had not scored that winning goal.

 

[Zatara]

Absolute top class technical players with other top class technical players in the same team is great.

But if you stick someone like Bernard in our side then even though he’s good technically (not top level but good) he just gets overwhelmed as he can’t get time and space on the ball.

I put a link to 3 vids in the Lewis-Potter thread

He may be 5'7 but 38% of his goals are headers...he seems taller and quite a Cahill leap on him

 

[MikeH72]

Technically no, because we would still have finished 2 points ahead of Burnley if we had not scored that winning goal.

This is the same as his “Sigurdsson scored a winning goal at Anfield” thing.
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