Champions League revamp

[catcherintherye]

In fact - I think that is gaurenteed by the 75% voting clause for severe action (kicking teams out etc)

There seems to be some confusion on this, with 14 teams, and also the FA having a stakeholder clause. The 14 could technically vote to change that clause anyway from 15 to 14 if needs be.

Parrish response yesterday to it, just pointed out it was a none issue. Just laughed it off as a protection, by essentially if they've gone and negotiated another deal, they will kick them out of they want to kick them out by finding a mechanism. And Parrish was not massively bullish about any of it last night. This isn't to say they will definitely kick them out, or that it will happen soon, but if the 6 are allowed to stay having left UEFA, it will not be on a potential technicality of the rule book that keeps them.

The rule book also probably states you have to abide by UEFA standards, play in UEFA competitions and not join leagues that are not accredited.

 

[TimHowardsBeardJuice]

What people don’t seem to grasp is the owners don’t care. They don’t care if the prem captains come out and slam them, or if the fans don’t like it, or if the media don’t like it. They knew all of this already. They are eyeing up 350 million pounds a year minimum just for saying yes to this thing. They’re not going to be shocked by anything that has happened here.

they will care if it becomes bad business

the annual revenue stream is not as important as the year over year increase in the asset value. If these clubs become less valuable, because of the public relations hit or the failure of the SL to pull in eyeballs, they will care a great deal

10@% believe that this was driven by Henry and the bankers who lack a visceral understanding of the culture and did not know that by detaching these clubs they were ripping them away from the very structure that sustains them. Only a banker would think that the public would want this.

Kids don’t root for hedge fund

 

[RomanReigns]

It’s all fine and dandy for the managers to say they are merely employees and know nothing and that the media should speak to the owners or wait for them to make a statement to explain their reasons but there is no guarantee they the owners ever will. In fact they have no obligation to give a statement to explain why they have done this. It could just end up being an infinity circle where nothing is said in the hope that the furore dies down and eventually people just get on board with it. This is why swift action and punishment must be taken

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

What club will be the first to U-turn? My money’s on Chelsea or City.

You#'re really hedging your bets there.

 

[Tramps_mate]

Hmmmm

 

[Zezti]

OGS was told by Woodward the hour before the game on Sunday that the reports (which emerged just before ko) were true

Look at the contempt they treat their fans with. They don't care, mate. You have to get your head around that. These aren't clubs, they are brands. As far as these owners are concerned.

I know you're not meaning to be a smartarse. But there's no way the managers were consulted about the decision. The players all saying the same thing as well.

The owners are the ones who are the culprits here.

To these owners, the word 'fans' is synonymous with 'customer'.

 

[catcherintherye]

They really have no power though. He’s clubs will just get rid of them if they want to. All it will do is create some vague statement. Do you think the owners of these clubs care about that?

If the top 6 players refused to play, it would have a big impact in terms of the optics though. Remember, they need the best players to be playing to create a product that is miles better than is currently available to make the product viable. If on day 1, when you are launching the project, you are beset by negative news that is ongoing, it makes it very difficult to make a project a success.

From experiene, when you are starting a project, you want to make a positive impression, as in most cases that first impression is a lingering one, and generally about as good a one as you are going to get.

They are so out of touch Idoubt they care, and for some of the owners there's a lot of cutting off their nose to spite their face going on here. I'd liken it to Thatcher and the miners strike. They're going to war not just with a community, but an entire way of life, a tradition and a way of thinking.

 

[ste d' indica]

they will care if it becomes bad business

the annual revenue stream is not as important as the year over year increase in the asset value. If these clubs become less valuable, because of the public relations hit or the failure of the SL to pull in eyeballs, they will care a great deal

10@% believe that this was driven by Henry and the bankers who lack a visceral understanding of the culture and did not know that by detaching these clubs they were ripping them away from the very structure that sustains them. Only a banker would think that the public would want this.

Kids don’t root for hedge funds

I rooted in loads of hedges when I was a kid, found the odd bongo mag as it goes.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Cant help but feel whatever the result of this is we'll get shafted as a club.

Either UEFA cave in and give them a bigger slice of the pie for staying OR we go down the road of 50+1 German style ownership and Moshiri/Usmanov put in less money as they own less of the club.

Either scenario we lose out despite sticking by the rules.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Honestly gobsmacked by how little thought has gone into messaging by the owners

 

[Martin Alvito]

If he's saying the players will point blank refuse to play in that competition, then yes - they could have worn t shirts in solidarity that simply said "football is for the fans" and "earn it"

Klopp trying to blag it as "how dare they imply we dont know you have to earn it" is an absolute nonsense, if that was the case, Leeds wouldn't wear them.

You're right. They could have done that yesterday, on pure principle, with no idea how that would play out.

So they're not Kaepernick. They weren't willing to make a multi-million gamble for their families, without consulting them, on the spur of the moment. That does not make them the bad guys, or just as bad as the bad guys.

I don't think they're obligated to be heroes. They deserve the plaudits when they choose to be, and potentially greater plaudits depending on the timing of that heroism, but I think they also have the right to say "I am not a role model" without being criticized for not taking the stand people would like them to take when they would like them to take it. We don't know what's going on in their lives. It's presumptuous to judge. If we have a problem with that, then we're the ones that need to look in the mirror and ask ourselves about the pedestal we're putting them on.

 

[Brisan123]

https://fcbayern.com/Njs3U

@number4. looks like you were wrong. Bayern have some integrity unlike the red franchise across the park(for now).

I would say he is becoming used to it by now ......being wrong that is

 

[Jim Hopper]

lol @ Daniel Levy at Spurs if this doesn’t happen. Small fish thinking they’re big Gs now can’t even get that right lol

 

[mill]

Not supportive of this super league at all but the idea that it’s anti competitive surely isn’t right - are we saying No rival leagues can be set up outside UEFA’s control? Surely the Super League have more of a case in terms of not being allowed to break away?

They can set up what they want. I don’t think that’s the part that’s anti competitive.

they will care if it becomes bad business

the annual revenue stream is not as important as the year over year increase in the asset value. If these clubs become less valuable, because of the public relations hit or the failure of the SL to pull in eyeballs, they will care a great deal

10@% believe that this was driven by Henry and the bankers who lack a visceral understanding of the culture and did not know that by detaching these clubs they were ripping them away from the very structure that sustains them. Only a banker would think that the public would want this.

Kids don’t root for hedge fund

it won’t be bad for business though. The players will come round for obvious reasons. And the fans they are aiming for aren’t arsed about all this. It’s the ones that play FUT. that’s what they would see this as.

 

[mightymoyes]

Honestly gobsmacked by how little thought has gone into messaging by the owners

these people are not very bright. very, very greedy though and that is driving it, not intelligence.