Club Statement: Coronavirus

[BlueStevie35]

No, I don’t believe the 2019/20 season should continue into 2021, completely ruining next season in a Euros year.

This, if football resumes between August and October it’ll be for the 2020/21 season, 2019/20 is a busted flush and it’s becoming really desperate from anyone trying to push it further

 

[SpongeBob brown shoes]

Wouldn't delaying or cutting short next season be more costly to clubs than finishing this one

The Euros won't be moving again so football finishes in May next year, if there is a slight delay to the start of 20/21 season then the winter break goes, if it's delayed by a month then more games crammed in to a shorter time frame, maybe there will be no 2nd leg or replays in cup games

IF it is safe to start football from June, would teams and players be happy playing a fast turnover of games in a month or two to go straight into a full season then Euros?

Also these players havnt even trained properly for a month to then get lashed into non stop football from June till the Euros finish next summer, plus African cup, hammys twanging everywhere

 

[number4.]

No, I don’t believe the 2019/20 season should continue into 2021, completely ruining next season in a Euros year.

you are assuming next season is going to be a normal August - may season, the jump into the Euros with everyone travelling.

Yes, for sure it is speculative, but my point is football wont be normal for years more than likely, there will be pauses if Corona numbers creep back up and I dont think football will look the same for years to come

 

[msb]

We've been playing football for centuries.

I really don't understand why it's such a big deal maybe one season doesn't get finished.

In 30 years we'll forget all about a voided season just how everyone forgets Blackburn have won the PL.

A lovely thought, but the RS will never forget that it was "stolen" from them, just like everything that ever goes against them, never forgotten, always blame someone else. The never make a fuss of Heysel, no-one makes a fuss of Bradford etc. etc.I have every sympathy with major catastrophic events, but surely there has to be a time when we move on?

So the big deal is that RS press will keep this topic alive for ever if they are denied the trophy.

All of it pales into insignificance against folks losing their loved ones every day and likely to do so for months to come though this contagion.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

Why would they fold because of it Cookachoo? Are clubs not just as likely to fold if we resume the 2019/20 season in October 2019?

What about the relegated teams? They will have had any home advantage stripped away by having to play behind closed doors and could be financially crippled by relegation?

To your 1st point, no. They are not just as likely to fold by resuming. Reason being, the TV money and sponsorship money they have already been paid, they would have to return, or at least sizeable chunks of it. This is hundreds of thousands of pounds to clubs lower down the ladder, but millions of pounds for most clubs up in the 92, more than enough to place them into administration. If the season resumes, that money would not have to be returned. If it's voided, it will.

To your 2nd point, you're assuming that Football will be played behind closed doors. It may well be, it may be that the authorities simply wait until it's safe to resume with crowds which could be quite some time. Who knows?! In any case, average gate receipts for 9 or 10 games (whatever is remaining for these clubs) are far, far lower than what they would lose by voiding and losing those sponsorship deals etc.

Resuming is absolutely the lesser of two evils for the majority of clubs, hence the strong reaction from those lower down the ladder to the decision to void the NL.

 

[matty1878]

Why won't the players want to play Football, if the government says it is safe for them to do so?

would you play in April June? Nope. Void it end of

 

[matty1878]

Players just wont want to what???

Players will want to play as soon as it is safe to do so, it's their livelyhood. Sure you'll get instastories from some of them saying it is not the same without fans, but all footballers care about is...

- Getting paid
- their contracts
- winning trophies
- Protecting their value & optimising contracts

If it is safe to do so, Footballers will be willing to play as soon as possible.

they won’t anytime soon so Void. Honestly I’m sick of repeating Myself.

 

[MikeH72]

To your 1st point, no. They are not just as likely to fold by resuming. Reason being, the TV money and sponsorship money they have already been paid, they would have to return, or at least sizeable chunks of it. This is hundreds of thousands of pounds to clubs lower down the ladder, but millions of pounds for most clubs up in the 92, more than enough to place them into administration. If the season resumes, that money would not have to be returned. If it's voided, it will.

To your 2nd point, you're assuming that Football will be played behind closed doors. It may well be, it may be that the authorities simply wait until it's safe to resume with crowds which could be quite some time. Who knows?! In any case, average gate receipts for 9 or 10 games (whatever is remaining for these clubs) are far, far lower than what they would lose by voiding and losing those sponsorship deals etc.

Resuming is absolutely the lesser of two evils for the majority of clubs, hence the strong reaction from those lower down the ladder to the decision to void the NL.

What about all the TV money for next season that they wouldn't get then? Because next season would be either half a season, or crammed into the shortest space of time possible (with all the domestic cups cancelled - a massive source of income for lower league clubs), because they're not going to move the Euros back to December like you've previously suggested. Doesn't that just offset the "sizeable" (2 months worth) chunk of TV money that they'd miss out on this season? That's millions of pounds to clubs further down the ladder, for the sake of the rest of this season?

 

[number4.]

would you play in April June? Nope. Void it end of

So that's the end of football then, delete forum, farewell Everton FC - Footballers just wont play football again. There is literally no logic to your ramblings.....

Footballers are itching to play football & will be back the day it is deemed safe to do so and there a no insurance issues.

 

[blueblue]

or finish the current - who knows? possibly clearer after UEFA summit today

I don't expect anything will be clearer for quite a while yet.
Anything that is decided is aspirational and dependent on how the crisis evolves.

I think the outcome will vary from country to country depending on what damage the pandemic causes to society.
I doubt that football is in the mind of anybody now in Spain or Italy in particular as those two countries are ravaged by the disease. When this first surge is brought under control I would imagine their respective governments will take great care before letting society getting back to normal or even close because of the threat of a second or third surge.

In both England and Ireland it does appear that we are still not at the top of the curve or even close. If we see thousands of people dying every day then I think that will determine the attitude of the government going forward compared to a scenario where the curve is successfully flattened and we see fewer people deaths.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

would you play in April June? Nope. Void it end of

I'd play in June if the number of infections and deaths had flattened significantly, lockdown had been lifted and social distancing rules had been loosened. How likely that is is anybody's guess, obviously. But nobody is putting a time frame on this, Matty.

In that statement above, take June out and replace it with July or August or October and i'm sure players will feel pretty much the same. As long as the authorities decide it is safe to do so, they will play. Because, in that case, they will feel reassured and they will also be insured for any injuries.

Then it's on the government if they are wrong.

 

[MikeH72]

Hang on, if Sky and BT claim all their money back for this season, can we claim our subscription fees back?

VOID VOID VOID VOID

 

[number4.]

I don't expect anything will be clearer for quite a while yet.
Anything that is decided is aspirational and dependent on how the crisis evolves.

I think the outcome will vary from country to country depending on what damage the pandemic causes to society.
I doubt that football is in the mind of anybody now in Spain or Italy in particular as those two countries are ravaged by the disease. When this first surge is brought under control I would imagine their respective governments will take great care before letting society getting back to normal or even close because of the threat of a second or third surge.

In both England and Ireland it does appear that we are still not at the top of the curve or even close. If we see thousands of people dying every day then I think that will determine the attitude of the government going forward compared to a scenario where the curve is successfully flattened and we see fewer people deaths.

would agree with pretty much everything here - I suspect there will be a "at present, we remain committed at present to completing this years seasons & will not be making any decisions on next steps until we can establish dates for the safe return to football" statement from UEFA at some stage this afternoon

Then again; they might agree to void everything with the 55 FAs

 

[MikeH72]

I'd play in June if the number of infections and deaths had flattened significantly, lockdown had been lifted and social distancing rules had been loosened. How likely that is is anybody's guess, obviously. But nobody is putting a time frame on this, Matty.

In that statement above, take June out and replace it with July or August or October and i'm sure players will feel pretty much the same. As long as the authorities decide it is safe to do so, they will play. Because, in that case, they will feel reassured and they will also be insured for any injuries.

Then it's on the government if they are wrong.

What? You'd play football in June if the death rate had FLATTENED?? As in, just as many people in the country are still becoming infected and dying every day? Weird, unsavoury man you Cookachoo.

 

[Connor]

What about all the TV money for next season that they wouldn't get then? Because next season would be either half a season, or crammed into the shortest space of time possible (with all the domestic cups cancelled - a massive source of income for lower league clubs), because they're not going to move the Euros back to December like you've previously suggested. Doesn't that just offset the "sizeable" (2 months worth) chunk of TV money that they'd miss out on this season? That's millions of pounds to clubs further down the ladder, for the sake of the rest of this season?

In all the arguments about losing TV money why has nobody addressed this? Surely if we play the end of this season and then ruin next season in some shape, the TV deal would be affected again?