We'll see.
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Couldn't agree more & at the end of the day, it might well end up void and as mentioned; in the grand scheme of things it's only football and it doesnt really matter at the moment, but my two points....
1) Still can't see 20/21 starting until 19/20 outcome is clear - they co-exist
2) If 19/20 is voided, there will be legal challenges, which will be far far slower than completing the season, which is why I think ultimately they will complete, even if football isn't back for 12 months from now.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
The issue is as well, it's much harder to prove there;s a loss if income from it. The PL could hand them the biggest slice of the pie in terms of TV revenues and really, financially they have done their obligations. It's not for courts to start intervening and go giving trophies to people who haven't earned them.
Mark barnett
Player Valuation: £6m
Voiding won't happen so i see the league being played in august although the pandemic won't be over it should have subsided significantlly to allow matches behind closed doors in the uk, but i think the players mental and physical state will determine if this is possible
Yes that makes sense, but the above works off the assumption that the TV revenues still exist in an uncompleted season. All reporting suggests that unless the season is completed, these revenues are gone
So I can claim back my sky subscription from August?
I think not and the TV companies will have made lots of money this season.
Reduced amount will be the outcome.
Won't hit us as much as some as it goes on games shown for a part of it.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
Well it's my understanding that they are withholding the last payment, and they have paid for 3/4 and are happy to honour that. If that remains the case, losing 1/4 of the revenue this season is better than losing 1/2 or potentially 1 whole of next seasons.
My understanding is different & perhaps kited by journalists with interest in the season being completed, but I thought it was a simple case of no full season, the contract is not completed and TV companies will be contesting the full spend on year.
Yes, it is paid in installments, but from what I have read it seems to be fairly clear that there would be one hell of a fight over the full years fees if it doesnt get completed.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I'm no expert on this and to be frank neither are most of the journalists. It's certainly possible Sky will look to avoid paying for anything if the season is voided. If I worked for Sky/BT, that would be my position (and could well start to be sponsors positions).
That being said, you still don't get away from the dilemma of cancelling next season,or shortening it, which could theoretically result in the same approach.
From what I have seen though, Sky are asking fro around 700m (around 1/4) returned. Most articles I've seen are from the perspective that this hole in the payment would cause enormous problems. I'd also add, Sky/BT have already made payments to the league clubs, so it would be hard for them to claw that money back.
The most logical legal position, if I was advising the PL, would be to concede the 1/4 sky/Bt want, write that money off, and prioritise next season and ensure no more money is lost.
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Insurance companies have not paid out on anything as yet, as I understand it.
They're definitely fighting that fight, unsurprisingly. What impact that has on this, I don't know.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
There won't be time to start in August and complete next season. There is also going to be the difficulties of players being able to be registered.
At some point the first domino will fall, IE a league will be cancelled and voided. Once that happens, they will all fall into line.
Every statement being ushered currently is merely damage limitation for when the litigation commences. Essentially "it's not our fault, we wanted to play but it was taken out of our hands".
I agree for sure that ultimately, they will all fall into line on a new timetable for football, ultimately I think what will happen is a Euros will move again to winter 2021 & we will have two full seasons Jan - Oct with an August break for heat in each, then a two year adjustment after Qatar 2022.
This would give a window of the remainder of this year to complete the existing season
orly
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Crying with laughter at this, it is absolutely fantastic. Gets to speak to an all time great and the Everton boss, first thing he says "got the Netflix on and can give you some tips" lollollollollollollol
Well done that fan and top work Everton
I am not sure I totally agree with you.
If it can at all they will certainly finish season 19/20 but as pointed out earlier I think legal challenges are fraught with danger in uncertain times.
I think that courts may find if every reasonable attempt was made to finish a season then there is no blame. But, when is it reasonable to expect to finish a season which should have finished in May ? My belief is that if it could be shoehorned in as a kind of pre season while pushing the new season back until the beginning of September then it may be possible, but if players are not coming back to training until mid July or August then I can't see it happen.
The question is... when is the crisis over ?
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