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OnlyBlueWillDo said:
The CPS did not want to pursue it, they were not going to charge her, senior coppers insisted the look at it again using domestic abuse laws that are designed to protect vulnerable victims who my be scared to prosecute allowing coppers to take it on out of the victims hands.

The boyfriend told them this was a one off incident, he was not a long suffering abuse victim, the more I've read about this I've changed my mind on it, she was obviously suffering from mental health issues and for me the coppers have got it wrong on this one, she's certainly dead because they went in two footed looking to nail her.
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Sorry but you’re wrong . It’s the CPS decisions to prosecute if they believe it’s in the public interest to do so. The police just present a case file to them, the CPS then decide to run with it or not.

The level of assault was also high. Only attempted murder and murder are higher. It was always going to go to court regardless if the victim made a complaint or not.
 
My mate once put on Faithless and I was there during the soundcheck and so was Weatherall.

I was about 21, thought I knew everything about dance music (I didn't lol). He spoke to me about 15 mins, telling me about Underground Res and Drexciya whilst I was probably talking absolute rubbish. He just seemed happy that younger people took interest.
 
OnlyBlueWillDo said:
"Sources close to her legal team say that after Caroline was arrested, lawyers for the CPS had initially decided not to charge her.

It is understood senior police officers pressed for a charging decision.

In the end, the CPS used guidelines designed to protect long-term sufferers of domestic abuse to charge her — despite Lewis supporting Caroline and not wanting her to be prosecuted.

A legal source said: “The CPS were relying on legislation that protects people suffering long-term domestic abuse. Those laws are there to help the authorities prosecute without having the victim onside or needed to give evidence.

Laws designed to help victims who are too afraid to take on their abusers and too terrified to speak in court. But this was a completely different kind of case.

“Lewis wasn’t a frightened victim. He wanted to defend Caroline. He said the CPS version of what happened that night was wrong.

“This was a one-off incident where a minor injury was caused under disputed facts.

“The CPS knew they were dealing with an emotionally distressed woman who had caused herself significant harm during the incident.”

Dr Charlotte Proudman, a human rights barrister, said: “This smacks of a show trial."

“It feels like it was nothing more than an attempt by the CPS to show how rigorously it pursues domestic abuse cases, especially one involving a male complainant.”

Dr Proudman who specialises in cases involving violence against women and girls, added: “I’m baffled as to why the CPS were so determined to continue with this case.

"There were clear mental health issues at the heart of this case and her vulnerability, both at the time of the incident and afterwards were well known."

As I've said the more I read, the more I change my mind about whether she really needed to be prosecuted...
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Del-boy said:
The level of assault was also high. Only attempted murder and murder are higher. It was always going to go to court regardless if the victim made a complaint or not.
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That’s not exactly true. She was charged with a Sec.39 (common assault with battery) and not a 47 or 18. Still, the point was that it’s a serious assault.

It was allegedly premeditated, with a weapon and he was unable to defend himself due to being asleep, so they were always going to press charges.
 
coollino said:
My mate once put on Faithless and I was there during the soundcheck and so was Weatherall.

I was about 21, thought I knew everything about dance music (I didn't lol). He spoke to me about 15 mins, telling me about Underground Res and Drexciya whilst I was probably talking absolute rubbish. He just seemed happy that younger people took interest.
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Didn't realise he formed Sabres of Paradise - The missus will be gutted :(
 
PhilM said:
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That’s not exactly true. She was charged with a Sec.39 (common assault with battery) and not a 47 or 18. Still, the point was that it’s a serious assault.

It was allegedly premeditated, with a weapon and he was unable to defend himself due to being asleep, so they were always going to press charges.
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I may be wrong then but I’m sure I read somewhere that she has been charged with an 18. Getting hit across the head with a lamp would be a wounding in my book given the flat was described as looking like a blood bath.

If she had only been charged with a 39 given the guy clearly had visible injuries is a bit of a farce in itself.

Either way it’s a sad turn of events and an absolute waste of young woman’s life.
 

Del-boy said:
I may be wrong then but I’m sure I read somewhere that she has been charged with an 18. Getting hit across the head with a lamp would be a wounding in my book given the flat was described as looking like a blood bath.

If she had only been charged with a 39 given the guy clearly had visible injuries is a bit of a farce in itself.

Either way it’s a sad turn of events and an absolute waste of young woman’s life.
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She would have been acquitted or suspended sentence I am sure. The victim boyfriend was going to support her if anything.
Total overreaction on her part. I suspect drugs etc.
It's a sad case for sure but I'm tired of hearing the CPS or even the media being blamed.
 

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