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Keiran said:
Fame has a price, this is one of them. It’s why she got that lovely £1.2m for presenting the last series of Love Island.

I’m not saying it’s fair. If you or I had done what she had, our families would have all the peace and time they need, because the British public at large (and therefore, the press) don’t care about how our families are feeling.

As I said earlier, until we change how we consume information, the press will continue to seek stories where there aren’t any. They will hound Caroline’s friends, ex-boyfriends and family for comment over the next few weeks / months.

I’m not saying it’s pleasant or fair, it’s not. But it is what she signed up to, and she knew that.

And the even sadder thing is that thousands, perhaps even millions of others will gladly continue to sign up to it right now, knowing exactly what we know.
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I think it's every bit as much social media as the so called traditional media.

I think we'll all look back In 10 or 20 years and realise that the social media age has not been anywhere near as good as we thought.

I can say from experience, one of the best things I ever did was binning off twitter.
 

PhilM said:
Or there are particular cases where people aren't prosecuted because of particular circumstances, like this one, so the full judicial procedure cannot be completed.

Not to want to sound facetious here or in any way compare their supposed crimes, but I've used this analogy in the past when discussing similar circumstances...

Hitler was never convicted of mass genocide and war crimes because ultimately he committed suicide. Is he always innocent until proven guilty as per the law?

Should he receive the complete benefit of the doubt? I do not know whether she was guilty or not: I wasn't there nor am I privy to the full information of the case.

Nevertheless like I've said before, it isn't unjust or unfair to discuss the case, its circumstances and the probability (or not) of guilt when you consider the circs.
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Quoting Hitler when there is overwhelming evidence about him is not the same as a did she didnt she case.There where only 2 people that know the truth.
 

Billysgingham. said:
Quoting Hitler when there is overwhelming evidence about him, is not the same as a did she didnt she case.There where only 2 people that know the truth.
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But that's not how the criminal justice system works. In layman's terms, it all centres around two very simple questions:

Is there a supposed case to answer for? If so, is there evidence for a conviction? Again, if so it's the job the CPS to go for a conviction, which they have done.

If you want to discuss another case, look at the murder of Helen McCourt: in truth only two people know the real events, but a conviction was (rightfully) made.

The point I was making was that although she hasn't been convicted of a crime, you can't ignore the fact that she was facing a charge and there was evidence.
 
ToffeeTim said:
I think it's every bit as much social media as the so called traditional media.

I think we'll all look back In 10 or 20 years and realise that the social media age has not been anywhere near as good as we thought.

I can say from experience, one of the best things I ever did was binning off twitter.
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To each their own, for me social media is extremely useful to consume the information I want to consume. I can choose the appropriate channels that I like and enjoy and block or unfollow those that I have no interest in. It’s a good system.

The absolute worst thing that social media did for the population was convince people that their opinion was valuable, informative, useful and / or necessary.

It fuels this self-important, entitled, selfish, professionally offended, arrogant and unbelievably soft generation that we have at the moment. I fear the next will be even worse.
 

PhilM said:
But that's not how the criminal justice system works. In layman's terms, it all centres around two very simple questions:

Is there a supposed case to answer for? If so, is there evidence for a conviction? Again, if so it's the job the CPS to go for a conviction, which they have done.

If you want to discuss another case, look at the murder of Helen McCourt: in truth only two people know the real events, but a conviction was (rightfully) made.
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The murders of April Jones and Sarah Payne are another couple of cases like that too. Countless examples, unfortunately.
 
PhilM said:
But that's not how the criminal justice system works. In layman's terms, it all centres around two very simple questions:

Is there a supposed case to answer for? If so, is there evidence for a conviction? Again, if so it's the job the CPS to go for a conviction, which they have done.

If you want to discuss another case, look at the murder of Helen McCourt: in truth only two people know the real events, but a conviction was (rightfully) made.
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I agree with what you are saying I disagreed with the Hitler case.The Helen McCourt was an overwhelming evidence case of murder which got to court.But blacks never got to court so she is innocent.
 

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