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The binman chronicles said:
It is much better from the point of realism and I would imagine far easier to in-game switch traction control/fuel rates/DRS etc. than on a controller. I suppose the issue is have you got space for a wheel? I built a little table for mine that I stash away when not in use but it means that my pedals are only held by the (admittedly good) carpet grips but the extra sprung brake means if I was to push for 100% it would move. I eventually would like to get a proper seat but space is a limiting factor at the moment.

I have had a wheel since when the PS3 first came out so I might not be the best person to ask as I couldn't imagine not using one.

I can highly recommend the Logitech G29. Although I was a bit miffed having to buy it as I had a perfectly good G26 but that wasn't compatible with the PS4. It is currently £180 but I got mine on Black Friday a couple years back for £120. It went down by a similar price last November.
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I live in a a shared house so absolutely not haha.

I need to buy myself a 2 bed flat and have a dedicated gaming room.

I only bought a PS4 in October so I’m getting a bit carried away here.
 

ijjysmith said:
But how does it compare to real driving?
Like I’m a half decent driver. Done a few track days in mates rice burners and stuff, but is using a wheel on a computer that similar?
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Overall it translates very well especially with high-end direct drive systems which can replicate the strength/steering forces you'd feel in real life, the problem some people have with going from real life to sim is that they lose the feeling of the car moving under their arse because there is no motion. For example if the rear of a car starts to get loose in real life you can feel it instantly through the seat but in sim racing the only feedback you're getting is through the wheel... it can take some people some time to adapt, especially the older generation who haven't grown up on video games etc.

The skillset tends to translate over really well though, you just have to look at Max Verstappen and Lando Norris who are both F1 drivers and joined iRacing and were instantly ridiculously quick and amongst the best on the service.

Another example of it translating the opposite direction is this Italian kid who had never driven a race car in real life before but he won a championship in sim racing and got invited to the race of champions event in real life where he beat both an Indycar champion and ex formula one driver in his first ever time driving a race car...






Then there are people like Jan Mardenbrough and Wolfgang Reip who both won GT academy and are now professional drivers for Nissan who have competed in numerous events such as Le Mans, 24 hours Nordschleife etc.

It obviously doesn't beat the real thing but not everyone can afford track days or real life racing, thus they go down the sim racing route which allows them to race whenever they want for far cheaper. £8000 on a top end rig sounds mental and is the price of a tidy car, but if you want to regularly take that tidy car out for a track day and race events and pay for the tyres, repairs, insurance etc then it quickly stacks up to large sums of money. Not that you have to spend £8000, you can have a much-improved experience (relative to a joypad) buying something cheapish like a Logitech G29. The pedals on low end wheels are always absolute [Poor language removed] though...
 
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Any suggestions on indie games? Have 15 in the psn account. I like the top graphical ones like unravel, Inside, Journey etc
 
longers said:
You should see some of the rigs people on iRacing have... serious serious amount of money invested. That wheelbase alone is worth £1500 and it's not even one of the more expensive direct drive systems.

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Yes it gives you a huge advantage, instead of controlling the steering with your thumbs you're steering with your arms like in real life, the inputs are natural... going round a long sweeping corner is so much easier with a wheel, everything is easier. There are still people who are boss with joypads but with practice they'd be even bosser with a wheel/pedals.
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Christ. That seat is worth than my actual car.

I think I will get a wheel eventually. I’m worried that I will let gaming take over my life like it did at uni though. There’s worse things to be addicted to I suppose.
 

longers said:
Overall it translates very well especially with high-end direct drive systems which can replicate the strength/steering forces you'd feel in real life, the problem some people have with going from real life to sim is that they lose the feeling of the car moving under their arse because there is no motion. For example if the rear of a car starts to get loose in real life you can feel it instantly through the seat but in sim racing the only feedback you're getting is through the wheel... it can take some people some time to adapt, especially the older generation who haven't grown up on video games etc.

The skillset tends to translate over really well though, you just have to look at Max Verstappen and Lando Norris who are both F1 drivers and joined iRacing and were instantly ridiculously quick and amongst the best on the service.

Another example of it translating the opposite direction is this Italian kid who had never driven a race car in real life before but he won a championship in sim racing and got invited to the race of champions event in real life where he beat both an Indycar champion and ex formula one driver in his first ever time driving a race car...






Then there are people like Jan Mardenbrough and Wolfgang Reip who both won GT academy and are now professional drivers for Nissan who have competed in numerous events such as Le Mans, 24 hours Nordschleife etc.

It obviously doesn't beat the real thing but not everyone can afford track days or real life racing, thus they go down the sim racing route which allows them to race whenever they want for far cheaper. £8000 on a top end rig sounds mental and is the price of a tidy car, but if you want to regularly take that tidy car out for a track day and race events and pay for the tyres, repairs, insurance etc then it quickly stacks up to large sums of money. Not that you have to spend £8000, you can have a much-improved experience (relative to a joypad) buying something cheapish like a Logitech G29. The pedals on low end wheels are always absolute [Poor language removed] though...
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the one thing you can never replicate is the fear/danger...
 
Death said:
I was looking at it. Is it good? What's the low down on it. Definitely was considering it yesterday.
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It’s 100
Death said:
I was looking at it. Is it good? What's the low down on it. Definitely was considering it yesterday.
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It’s 100% worth the price IMO, it has lots of exploration and environmental storytelling and challenging bosses. The combat seems simple at first glance but has a lot of potential play styles. Plus I enjoy the art style but that’s more subjective.

In terms of gameplay it’s mostly about discovering new areas in the game and I think the sheer amount of content available would impress you. But the true stars of the show are the boss encounters. Definitely reccomend, I’d never even played a metroidvania beforehand and I loved it.
 
neil999 said:
the one thing you can never replicate is the fear/danger...
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Yes that's true, although you can easily break your wrist/fingers/arm with a direct drive wheel if you're running high forces and are not careful. If you're going to crash into a wall or whatever you'd be wise to do what some drivers do in real life and just let go of the steering wheel before impact. The motors on them can generate up to 26Nm of torque... they are violent pieces of equipment at full force.



Can be an excellent workout tbh
 
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Encoder said:
It’s 100
It’s 100% worth the price IMO, it has lots of exploration and environmental storytelling and challenging bosses. The combat seems simple at first glance but has a lot of potential play styles. Plus I enjoy the art style but that’s more subjective.

In terms of gameplay it’s mostly about discovering new areas in the game and I think the sheer amount of content available would impress you. But the true stars of the show are the boss encounters. Definitely reccomend, I’d never even played a metroidvania beforehand and I loved it.
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Sold. If the publishers could see your endorsement you'd deserve half the profit. I'll let you know how I get on thanks lad. Was considering but you pushed me.
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Death said:
Sold. If the publishers could see your endorsement you'd deserve half the profit. I'll let you know how I get on thanks lad. Was considering but you pushed me.
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The dev team consisted of 3 (!!!) people and for the amount of content in the game I think they deserve every penny they get. Hope you enjoy it.
 
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The dev team consisted of 3 (!!!) people and for the amount of content in the game I think they deserve every penny they get. Hope you enjoy it.
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Only 3 people made it. Encoder. If you had if started with that info u dono if I would have bought it!!!... ha joking looking forward to it.
 

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