1995-2020 = the longest barren spell without silverware in Everton's history

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davek said:
It's not to rub salt in wounds, I can assure you. More of a salve.

We need to look to ourselves not them. That's the bottom line...literally!
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...yep, they’ve all had their blips and barren spells, lots has to do with appointing the right manager (DoF) as well as financial clout. If things are truly cyclical, then hopefully it’ll be our turn soon.
 
Eggs said:
...yep, they’ve all had their blips and barren spells, lots has to do with appointing the right manager (DoF) as well as financial clout. If things are truly cyclical, then hopefully it’ll be our turn soon.
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It's going to take more than hiring the right manager/DoF.
 

There are only 2 trophies to win, the League and the FA Cups. Both of those are downgraded second rate competitions. The financial scene has changed everything and with the exceptional and extraordinary fluke of Leicester, apart from a buy out by an arab billionaire, this cannot change. All that matters for 18 of the 20 clubs is trying to get in the top 4 and compete in the CL like Arsenal did year in and year out without winning it. The fans got bored and Wenger paid the price (16 or 17 consecutive years in the CL?). It is fantasy to believe that coming 1st in the PL or winning the CL are ever likely to come our way for another generation or more. Get used to it and aim for what is achievable, and even that is some way off.
 
During this bad run we have generally been the 6th-7th best team in England.

Obviously that is nothing to write home about but those "rubbish" teams mentioned have been relegated in that time and have had a fluke cup win.

Our lack of trophies is to do with managers playing crap sides in cup games, or just generally not being strong enough to go all out to win a cup due to their inadequacies.

The board stuff is an easy and lazy excuse and doesn't make much sense when those clubs who have been mentioned have been ran much worse than we have.

It's football these days, there are massive clubs who great traditions and a list of honours who have fell by the wayside in recent times all over Europe as the new money came into the game and the Champions League slowly began to eat the game from the inside.

There is no easy answer, you throw loads of money at a club and they still may not win anything. Any cup we would have won during this time would have been down to a bit of luck like those other clubs who won stuff who are not one of the big boys.

Modern football is rubbish and utterly pointless.
 
Dymak said:
This thread is about our failure to win anything over a 25 year period, so I think we should be looking at ourselves as to why that has been allowed to happen. I personally think that having a business plan that consisted of having no investment whatsoever over a 15 year period may have something to do with us becoming midtable also-rans.
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The blame game is absolutely pointless though. It’s happened, there’s nothing we can do about it now it’s time to move on and work out how we are going to win something
 

Papa Shango said:
During this bad run we have generally been the 6th-7th best team in England.

Obviously that is nothing to write home about but those "rubbish" teams mentioned have been relegated in that time and have had a fluke cup win.

Our lack of trophies is to do with managers playing crap sides in cup games, or just generally not being strong enough to go all out to win a cup due to their inadequacies.

The board stuff is an easy and lazy excuse and doesn't make much sense when those clubs who have been mentioned have been ran much worse than we have.

It's football these days, there are massive clubs who great traditions and a list of honours who have fell by the wayside in recent times all over Europe as the new money came into the game and the Champions League slowly began to eat the game from the inside.

There is no easy answer, you throw loads of money at a club and they still may not win anything. Any cup we would have won during this time would have been down to a bit of luck like those other clubs who won stuff who are not one of the big boys.

Modern football is rubbish and utterly pointless.
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yep
 
It is pretty unfortunate that it includes my life between ages of 2 and 27...
 
davek said:
If we dont win a trophy next season a shameful anniversary will be upon us: 25 years without a trophy win. That'll eclipse the previous barren period between 1939-1963 by a year (and that was as lengthy as it was because there was no football for 6 years because of a war). Since 1995, Leicester have won three trophies; Villa, Blackburn, M'boro, Birmingham City, Swansea City, Portsmouth and Wigan have each won a trophy.

Our downfall hasn't happened by accident. It's happened because the club in the last quarter of a century has been run by amateurs who've squandered the greatest money spree there's ever been at the disposal of Everton in its history. It's gone nowhere. Spent on paying off loans (and the interest run up for those loans...and that's another murky area in and of itself). Those loans were taken out because a series of owners simply didn't have the wherewithal to make a successful takeover happen and they used the club's PL status as a credit card and a liberal sprinkling of player sales to keep themselves in position for a future sale. Oh yes, there's been poor recruitment of managers and players. The cash wasted there hasn't helped either.

But this has been an age defined by our former peers upgrading stadia / building new stadia in order to stay competitive and increase their chances of success, but Everton's owners were too dimwitted to ever get a stadium idea off the drawing board and built. Which should come as no surprise to anyone, because they are the same people who employed a variety of CEOs to cut deals which were appallingly small for a club of this size, people who exhibited no idea how to grow Everton into a commercially viable operation. They've all recognised the key problem, for sure, but that's only been in order to hide their failure behind the mantra of 'facility-led' recovery and then they fold their arms as if nothing else matters. And here we are now still waiting for it with promises of updates where a secured planning permission for a stadium and funding to build it should be.

So, as we head into our 25th year in the wilderness, take a bow Messrs Johnson, Finch, Kenwright, Gregg, Earl, Dunford, Wyness, Elstone, Moshiri...and you too Mrs Barrett-Baxendale.

We wake up to the continuing nightmare of our local rival lifting another piece of silverware and taking their place in the sun while we remain firmy in the shadows, but remember that those named above are our real enemies, not an embarrassing cult who just so happen to share the same city as us. No one at Liverpool bollocksed us up for this length of time. The perpetrators of our quarter of a century decline all sat and sit in our boardroom at L4.
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Kenwright is the one common denominator in this whole period. When he leaves the club I'll celebrate it as much as winning a trophy.
 
Billy Dean said:
Kenwright is the one common denominator in this whole period. When he leaves the club I'll celebrate it as much as winning a trophy.
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And yet other clubs have been ran much, much, much worse and have won stuff.

There is no link.

We have been in a position a few times to at least have a go at winning stuff during this time, we failed to do so because our managers were not strong/good enough.

Any manager at the right end of the table for 11 years should really be looking to win a trophy of some sort in that time.
 

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