1995-2020 = the longest barren spell without silverware in Everton's history

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If we dont win a trophy next season a shameful anniversary will be upon us: 25 years without a trophy win. That'll eclipse the previous barren period between 1939-1963 by a year (and that was as lengthy as it was because there was no football for 6 years because of a war). Since 1995, Leicester have won three trophies; Villa, Blackburn, M'boro, Birmingham City, Swansea City, Portsmouth and Wigan have each won a trophy.

Our downfall hasn't happened by accident. It's happened because the club in the last quarter of a century has been run by amateurs who've squandered the greatest money spree there's ever been at the disposal of Everton in its history. It's gone nowhere. Spent on paying off loans (and the interest run up for those loans...and that's another murky area in and of itself). Those loans were taken out because a series of owners simply didn't have the wherewithal to make a successful takeover happen and they used the club's PL status as a credit card and a liberal sprinkling of player sales to keep themselves in position for a future sale. Oh yes, there's been poor recruitment of managers and players. The cash wasted there hasn't helped either.

But this has been an age defined by our former peers upgrading stadia / building new stadia in order to stay competitive and increase their chances of success, but Everton's owners were too dimwitted to ever get a stadium idea off the drawing board and built. Which should come as no surprise to anyone, because they are the same people who employed a variety of CEOs to cut deals which were appallingly small for a club of this size, people who exhibited no idea how to grow Everton into a commercially viable operation. They've all recognised the key problem, for sure, but that's only been in order to hide their failure behind the mantra of 'facility-led' recovery and then they fold their arms as if nothing else matters. And here we are now still waiting for it with promises of updates where a secured planning permission for a stadium and funding to build it should be.

So, as we head into our 25th year in the wilderness, take a bow Messrs Johnson, Finch, Kenwright, Gregg, Earl, Dunford, Wyness, Elstone, Moshiri...and you too Mrs Barrett-Baxendale.

We wake up to the continuing nightmare of our local rival lifting another piece of silverware and taking their place in the sun while we remain firmy in the shadows, but remember that those named above are our real enemies, not an embarrassing cult who just so happen to share the same city as us. No one at Liverpool bollocksed us up for this length of time. The perpetrators of our quarter of a century decline all sat and sit in our boardroom at L4.
 
If we dont win a trophy next season a shameful anniversary will be upon us: 25 years without a trophy win. That'll eclipse the previous barren period between 1939-1963 by a year (and that was as lengthy as it was because there was no football for 6 years because of a war). Since 1995, Leicester have won three trophies; Villa, Blackburn, M'boro, Birmingham City, Swansea City, Portsmouth and Wigan have each won a trophy. Our downfall hasn't happened by accident. It's happened because the club in the last quarter of a century has been run by amateurs who've squandered the greatest money spree there's ever been at the disposal of Everton in its history. It's gone nowhere. Spent on paying off loans (and the interest run up for those loans...and that's another murky area in and of itself). Those loans were taken out because a series of owners simply didn't have the wherewithal to make a successful takeover happen and they used the club's PL status as a credit card and a liberal sprinkling of player sales to keep themselves in position for a future sale. Oh yes, there's been poor recruitment of managers and players. The cash wasted there hasn't helped either.

But this has been an age defined by our former peers upgrading stadia / building new stadia in order to stay competitive and increase their chances of success, but Everton's owners were too dimwitted to ever get a stadium idea off the drawing board and built. Which should come as no surprise to anyone, because they are the same people who employed a variety of CEOs to cut deals which were appallingly small for a club of this size, people exhibited no idea how to grow Everton into a commercially viable operation. They've all recognised the key problem, for sure, but that's only been to hide their failure behind the mantra of 'facility-led' recovery and then they fold their arms as if nothing else matters. And here we are now still waiting for it with promises of updates where a secured planning permission for a stadium and funding to build it should be.

So, as we head into our 25th year in the wilderness, take a bow Messrs Johnson, Finch, Kenwright, Gregg, Earl, Dunford, Wyness, Elstone, Moshiri...and you too Mrs Barrett-Baxendale.

We wake up to the continuing nightmare of our local rival lifting another piece of silverware and taking their place in the sun while we remain firmy in the shadows, but remember that those named above are our real enemies, not an embarrassing cult who just so happen to share the same city as us. No one at Liverpool bollocksed us up for this length of time. The perpetrators of our quarter of a century decline all sat and sit in our boardroom at L4.

If I were involved in the Everton board during this time I'd feel a sense of shame. The problem is that those who have guided us over the last 20 odd years don't feel any embarrassment, if anything you get the feeling they think we should be grateful for their stewardship.
 
If we dont win a trophy next season a shameful anniversary will be upon us: 25 years without a trophy win. That'll eclipse the previous barren period between 1939-1963 by a year (and that was as lengthy as it was because there was no football for 6 years because of a war). Since 1995, Leicester have won three trophies; Villa, Blackburn, M'boro, Birmingham City, Swansea City, Portsmouth and Wigan have each won a trophy.

Our downfall hasn't happened by accident. It's happened because the club in the last quarter of a century has been run by amateurs who've squandered the greatest money spree there's ever been at the disposal of Everton in its history. It's gone nowhere. Spent on paying off loans (and the interest run up for those loans...and that's another murky area in and of itself). Those loans were taken out because a series of owners simply didn't have the wherewithal to make a successful takeover happen and they used the club's PL status as a credit card and a liberal sprinkling of player sales to keep themselves in position for a future sale. Oh yes, there's been poor recruitment of managers and players. The cash wasted there hasn't helped either.

But this has been an age defined by our former peers upgrading stadia / building new stadia in order to stay competitive and increase their chances of success, but Everton's owners were too dimwitted to ever get a stadium idea off the drawing board and built. Which should come as no surprise to anyone, because they are the same people who employed a variety of CEOs to cut deals which were appallingly small for a club of this size, people who exhibited no idea how to grow Everton into a commercially viable operation. They've all recognised the key problem, for sure, but that's only been in order to hide their failure behind the mantra of 'facility-led' recovery and then they fold their arms as if nothing else matters. And here we are now still waiting for it with promises of updates where a secured planning permission for a stadium and funding to build it should be.

So, as we head into our 25th year in the wilderness, take a bow Messrs Johnson, Finch, Kenwright, Gregg, Earl, Dunford, Wyness, Elstone, Moshiri...and you too Mrs Barrett-Baxendale.

We wake up to the continuing nightmare of our local rival lifting another piece of silverware and taking their place in the sun while we remain firmy in the shadows, but remember that those named above are our real enemies, not an embarrassing cult who just so happen to share the same city as us. No one at Liverpool bollocksed us up for this length of time. The perpetrators of our quarter of a century decline all sat and sit in our boardroom at L4.
I have just basically said the same thing in the Mosh thread
 
If I were involved in the Everton board during this time I'd feel a sense of shame. The problem is that those who have guided us over the last 20 odd years don't feel any embarrassment, if anything you get the feeling they think we should be grateful for their stewardship.
...there's two sides to the equation though: the other side is a support base that's allowed it to unfold.

No way the fanbase of Arsenal, United, Liverpool, Spurs etc would sit back and take the pummelling we have. Not without hitting back and getting some shift in fortune.

Our fans have been all too comfortable basically sitting in a comfort zone just so long as a relegation season doesn't unfold. THAT is the truth of the matter. Our horizons shrank after the 1990s relegation scrapes. We have for too long allowed mediocrity to prevail when our peers would have had none of it.
 

If we dont win a trophy next season a shameful anniversary will be upon us: 25 years without a trophy win. That'll eclipse the previous barren period between 1939-1963 by a year (and that was as lengthy as it was because there was no football for 6 years because of a war). Since 1995, Leicester have won three trophies; Villa, Blackburn, M'boro, Birmingham City, Swansea City, Portsmouth and Wigan have each won a trophy.

Our downfall hasn't happened by accident. It's happened because the club in the last quarter of a century has been run by amateurs who've squandered the greatest money spree there's ever been at the disposal of Everton in its history. It's gone nowhere. Spent on paying off loans (and the interest run up for those loans...and that's another murky area in and of itself). Those loans were taken out because a series of owners simply didn't have the wherewithal to make a successful takeover happen and they used the club's PL status as a credit card and a liberal sprinkling of player sales to keep themselves in position for a future sale. Oh yes, there's been poor recruitment of managers and players. The cash wasted there hasn't helped either.

But this has been an age defined by our former peers upgrading stadia / building new stadia in order to stay competitive and increase their chances of success, but Everton's owners were too dimwitted to ever get a stadium idea off the drawing board and built. Which should come as no surprise to anyone, because they are the same people who employed a variety of CEOs to cut deals which were appallingly small for a club of this size, people who exhibited no idea how to grow Everton into a commercially viable operation. They've all recognised the key problem, for sure, but that's only been in order to hide their failure behind the mantra of 'facility-led' recovery and then they fold their arms as if nothing else matters. And here we are now still waiting for it with promises of updates where a secured planning permission for a stadium and funding to build it should be.

So, as we head into our 25th year in the wilderness, take a bow Messrs Johnson, Finch, Kenwright, Gregg, Earl, Dunford, Wyness, Elstone, Moshiri...and you too Mrs Barrett-Baxendale.

We wake up to the continuing nightmare of our local rival lifting another piece of silverware and taking their place in the sun while we remain firmy in the shadows, but remember that those named above are our real enemies, not an embarrassing cult who just so happen to share the same city as us. No one at Liverpool bollocksed us up for this length of time. The perpetrators of our quarter of a century decline all sat and sit in our boardroom at L4.

Can’t argue with any of that. Add in the constant dampening down of expectations from within and we now have a fan base that sees 7th as some sort of success and semi final appearances as acceptable achievements for our once great club, yet we remain it’s greatest asset. I fear we have missed the boat completely, in terms of the cash required to be competitive, and we may never see Everton competing at the top again.
 
...there's two sides to the equation though: the other side is a support base that's allowed it to unfold.

No way the fanbas of Arsenal, United, Liverpool, Sours etc would sit back and take th ummelling we have. Not without hitting back and getting some shift in fortune.

Our fans have been all too comfortable basically sitting in a comfort zone just so long as a relegation season doesn't unfold. THAT is the truth of the matter. Our horizons shrank after the 1990s relegation scrapes. We have for too long allowed mediocrity to prevail when our peers would have had none of it.

You just look at Hodgson and Konchesky at Anfield. It was curtains for them inside weeks. That kind of attitude wins you trophies and unfortunately it doesn't exist at our club.
 
having the cheek to put blame on Moshiri is silly, He trusted a big wedge of cash to two highly respected people at the time in Koeman and Walsh and they absolutely wasted it away, That cash and moment was ripe for us taking Europa/attempting a push at a CL spot and we got absolutely rinsed by these two mugs who were clueless.
Football has evolved at a rapid pace and Everton just hasn't kept up sadly that's the truth, We all want better but fans are powerless in this situation unless Moshiri starts getting ruthless but I don't see that happening until the stadium is finished tbh.
 
Can’t argue with any of that. Add in the constant dampening down of expectations from within and we now have a fan base that sees 7th as some sort of success and semi final appearances as acceptable achievements for our once great club, yet we remain it’s greatest asset. I fear we have missed the boat completely, in terms of the cash required to be competitive, and we may never see Everton competing at the top again.

There's scope to get back. It will take a huge transformation though. We need a stadium that can be sweated for maximum profit and we need new owners to buy into the new stadium and invest heavily. I still think there'd be willing major investors despite all the stuff about FFP. The game will always evolve. I just have no expectation we can even get a stadium in place.
 

Too many people scared to act like that as it’s “kopite behaviour” and because Bill is a blue and wouldn’t do anything to hurt the club. Apparently.

None of us know the fella personally. Maybe in his mind he genuinely believes he has done well by the club. I just don't know how he reaches that conclusion. For me, he has failed a whole generation of Evertonians miserably.

I can only say how I'd feel if I were Bill Kenwright. I would probably be constantly apologising for how badly we have performed for such a long time.
 

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