toffee-boy
Player Valuation: £15m
Just out of interest, does anyone know which companies that moshiri has access to that would help with the stadium?
I know he has access to steel
I know he has access to steel
havrey0123
Player Valuation: £25m
megafon, so we should get some free wifi facilities
I am not sure what point you are making.
The problem is that building a stadium is not like building a team.
Whatever is built now will potentially have to meet our needs for another fifty year or more. It isn't only about having seats every week for your hard core fans it is important to have capacity to welcome fans from all over the world if you are hoping to build the club into a global brand as City, Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal have done.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
Tickets for under 25's and over 65's are not "dirt cheap" as you put it, the ST's are but match days less so.
There is overwhelming evidence to suggest, clubs who regularly sell out a stadium as we have done for many years, when they move increase their attendance between 50-80%. Look at any range of Clubs, from Bolton to Boro, Arsenal to City, West Ham to Leicester. The average rise is around 60% (which would give us an attendance substantially above 60k).
I don't mind opposing views, but for the most part you spread uneducated opinions and try to pass them off as facts.
The reason we have sold out pretty much every week for the best part of a decade, indeed sold out almost every week for the best part of 20+ years is not solely down to affordable ticketing for 2 sections of the fan base. It has to do with having a fan base that is too big for the current facilities. This is underpinned by playing in the worlds biggest Sports Franchise that has grown massively over the last 20 years, while our average attendance has only been able to grow from around 36k (90% full) to 39k (100% full). Our lack of capacity has restricted us for many years.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
The Arsenal/Spurs comparison is more valid. We have 10k+ on a waiting list and sell out almost every week (a similar stadium size too, albeit ours is slightly bigger). While your clubs may have had bigger waiting lists, our fans have consistently shown a desire to purchase heavily restricted views. Remove the restricted views, build the best stadium in the league and I'm sure the demand takes care of itself.
R934
Player Valuation: £1m
Unsure if this has been posted
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/09/13/colin-chong
Not much said per say - but still worth a read
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/09/13/colin-chong
Not much said per say - but still worth a read
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
It's astonishing the guff he suggests.
We currently have (I have read 10+ waiting lists but lets go with his 7k). That gives us 40k ST holders. (Easton himself has said he intends to sell 45K). Even with 40k though, presumably 3k for away supporters and 5k for corporate/semi corporate seats as they have targeted. That would leave 2k for walk up supporters.
We currently have anywhere from 4-6k walk up ticket availability and sell out pretty much every week for years on end. We also sell out in an unfashionable part of the city, miles away from centre/sea front, largely obstructed view seats in an old stadium with ordinary facilities.
How does that compute with suggesting a new stadium, one of the best in the country, in one of the most iconic settings in the world, on the waterfront, near the city centre, presumably with modern facilities etc can only sell 2k walk up seating?
It doesn't take a genius to realise you would be causing an enormous problem for demand and not solving any of the problems we currently face in trying allowing fans to watch matches. To suggest that situation is perfect would either a) suggest the lad doesn't have any understanding of how to estimate events.
b) Is on a wind up
c) Can't add up 2 digit numbers.
d) Isn't bothered about letting Evertonians who want to see the match have an opportunity to do so.
The numbers I've given there are before you factor in an upturn in performance and what that would bring. Or the opportunity for growth in the city, or the possibility of opening new markets and customers to come to the ground etc that would likely arise.
If I was on the Sales team, objectively I would say 80k is a better figure than 50k as at least it gives us room for growth. Even working on the most pessimistic numbers and appraisal, 50k simply causes more problems than what we currently have. I have no idea why anyone would suggest that as an ideal solution.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
havrey0123
Player Valuation: £25m
where has that figure come from
I rang recentley and it was around 7000 people on that waiting list, but many still attend games through everton membership/stubhub on that waiting list
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
That is what was announced last season, it may have gone down though I'd be surprised.
Without doubt some on the list will go to the match. It would be a big mistake to assume they are the same people though. They will be quite distinctive groups. It would be a bigger mistake to assume in a new stadium we couldn't find more walk up fans from within the city and also from new external sources. No Sales leader worth his salt would ever make such an elementary mistake.
Maybe, but let's not kid ourselves here, us being able to afford to build 'the best stadium in the league' with a 60k+ capacity doesn't really exist as a possibility anywhere outside of Dan Meis head at the moment.
To replicate what Spurs have done (which will be the standard to beat) even excluding cheese rooms and all the NFL bollocks would cost £650m+ at least.
You are not alone in that
I’m not sure even Havrey knows what he’s n about
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
Spurs stadium costs were around 300 million mate. London costs will be much higher as well. For the money we are paying I am sure it will be a fantastic stadium.
Guilty conscience.
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