Messi "best player of all time"

[FC sexy xxx]

Some rawkesque levels of delusion in this thread regarding Ronaldo being better . Embarrassing.

Ronaldo is unreal there is no doubt . But the way some of you are putting down messi’s achievements you’d think he was on the level of that Russian crab Bily who played for us .
Some of you don’t deserve eyesight because you clearly don’t watch football properly. Either that or it’s agenda driven nonsense.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Some rawkesque levels of delusion in this thread regarding Ronaldo being better . Embarrassing.

Ronaldo is unreal there is no doubt . But the way some of you are putting down messi’s achievements you’d think he was on the level of that Russian crab Bily who played for us .
Some of you don’t deserve eyesight because you clearly don’t watch football properly. Either that or it’s agenda driven nonsense.

I put it down to the English delusion that to be decent you have to be a big grock.

 

[YoboCopter]

Do u even have to pick? Both quality in diff ways just enjoy them

We will miss them when there gone thats for sure

 

[The binman chronicles]

Pretty sure Uruguay won the Copa América recently.

Brazil often send B teams or miss it completely and Argentina crumble under the expectation. Kind of opens it up to the others to win. The point that I am trying to make is over say the last 12 year period if one of the top European teams drew or had to play any team from the Americas that wasn't Brazil or Argentina they would look on it favourably.

 

[tsubaki]

I put it down to the English delusion that to be decent you have to be a big grock.

That and CR7 played in the PL.

 

[Connor]

 

[cpfc1905]

I think the assist stat is a bit too vague to be reliable really, but I do know that only one of the two players drops pinpoint passes in behind opposition defences on a regular basis and often having just dribbled past a couple of players.

I watched a fair bit of Barca when it started going wrong under Luis Enrique and the number of matches Messi dragged them through was staggering. While the rest of them pissed about he was consistently scoring and putting chance after chance on a plate for them, usually wasted by Suarez. He is THE team player (hence him feeling the need to drop deep in recent years)

just not sure some realise how good he really is and was

 

[davek]

Inferior to Ronaldo, not fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Diego.

 

[FC sexy xxx]

You’ve got to laugh at @davek . He goes on about loving decent football yet can’t see messi’s greatness. Keep on wumming davey lad

 

[davek]

You’ve got to laugh at @davek . He goes on about loving decent football yet can’t see messi’s greatness. Keep on wumming davey lad

^^^ Bogus criticism. I do say he's a great player - just not on Maradona's level.

 

[Skamp]

Inferior to Ronaldo, not fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Diego.

Continues to be the most blinkered, biased, deluded "fan" I've ever seen on a football forum; and that includes RAWK ffs

 

[FC sexy xxx]

^^^ Bogus criticism. I do say he's a great player - just not on Maradona's level.

Or Ronaldo’s according to you

 

[davek]

Continues to be the most blinkered, biased, deluded "fan" I've ever seen on a football forum; and that includes RAWK ffs

You're probably in a good position to judge that, tbf.

 

[davek]

Or Ronaldo’s according to you

That's right. Also a statement which does not preclude me thinking Messi is a great player.

*sigh*

 

[Lanolin]

Just as a fan that has never played or coached at a level higher than the college level; in the 40-50 matches I’ve watched of Messi for Barcelona, I simply don’t see Messi impact the game greater than the likes of others in his squad such as Iniesta, Rakitic, and Busquets. I would argue that those three have a greater impacts in the matches that I have watched.

Meanwhile, every match I have ever seen Ronaldo play; approximately 65-75 matches, Ronaldo is always the greatest and most impactful player on the pitch.

Take this for what it is worth because clearly I don’t see all of their matches; but, from my perspective Ronaldo is drastically the greater player and it really isn’t close.

You must have watched a really, really weird selection of games. I mean, Ronaldo wasn't even the 'most impactful' on the pitch in the very last game he played. Or in massive games like the Champions League final.

I said earlier in the thread I honestly wouldn't say one of them is better than the other, but to see people actually suggesting Messi isn't even in the same category is absolutely staggering. I'm not sure I can take someone's opinion on football seriously if they don't even think Messi is better than Busquets.