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Messi "best player of all time"

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Connor said:
The World Cup hot takes are great but still, basing it on one tournament? Yeah:

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Messi wasn't even the best player in the Argentina side last World Cup. It was a public joke that he got the Golden Ball. It's the same with the Player of the Year, it's easy for people to vote for Messi or Ronaldo without giving it much thought. Iniesta was far more influential than Messi for Barcelona over a long period of time, but he didn't have the back story that Messi had. Similarly 2 years ago Neymar was better than Messi for Barca, whenever they were struggling and needed someone to step up, it was Neymar. Not least in the PSG game. IMO that's why he left.

Neither Ronaldo or Messi are the players they were a few years ago, you could argue Messi has fallen further as he doesn't look anywhere near the same player. Ronaldo has re-invented himself a bit to combat it. Neymar is clearly not back to fitness from his injury but IMO he's a better player than both of them.
 
Steve0 said:
Ronaldo doesn't score that Messi goal last night in a month of Sundays. Simply not capable of football at that level.

Clear gap in quality for me.
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True.

He would have scored 3 other goals though, goals which Messi is simply not capable of at that level....
 

Little Ralphy said:
Messi wasn't even the best player in the Argentina side last World Cup. It was a public joke that he got the Golden Ball. It's the same with the Player of the Year, it's easy for people to vote for Messi or Ronaldo without giving it much thought. Iniesta was far more influential than Messi for Barcelona over a long period of time, but he didn't have the back story that Messi had. Similarly 2 years ago Neymar was better than Messi for Barca, whenever they were struggling and needed someone to step up, it was Neymar. Not least in the PSG game. IMO that's why he left.

Neither Ronaldo or Messi are the players they were a few years ago, you could argue Messi has fallen further as he doesn't look anywhere near the same player. Ronaldo has re-invented himself a bit to combat it. Neymar is clearly not back to fitness from his injury but IMO he's a better player than both of them.
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Pretty much every word of that is wrong. IMO.
 

Certainly not the best player of all time....that would be Diego IMO.

But he is certainly a brilliant player and last night we saw a glimpse of what he can do.

Go on, Lionel......make this your World Cup from here on in ;)
 
Little Ralphy said:
Messi wasn't even the best player in the Argentina side last World Cup. It was a public joke that he got the Golden Ball. It's the same with the Player of the Year, it's easy for people to vote for Messi or Ronaldo without giving it much thought. Iniesta was far more influential than Messi for Barcelona over a long period of time, but he didn't have the back story that Messi had. Similarly 2 years ago Neymar was better than Messi for Barca, whenever they were struggling and needed someone to step up, it was Neymar. Not least in the PSG game. IMO that's why he left.

Neither Ronaldo or Messi are the players they were a few years ago, you could argue Messi has fallen further as he doesn't look anywhere near the same player. Ronaldo has re-invented himself a bit to combat it. Neymar is clearly not back to fitness from his injury but IMO he's a better player than both of them.
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