Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%

  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%

  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%

  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%
  • Total voters
    956
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Eggsyblueskin said:
At the moment I am in a determinedly optimistic mood with regard to Everton( and its damned hard work). So am viewing the ominous silence in a positive light . I believe what we're witnessing is the calm before the storm, the darkest of the night before the shiny dawn of new hope.
It's like when any organisation long in the doldrums and under new ownership suddenly lurches into crisis under the gentle hand of change. It's realised the company needs drastic change and quickly. So the new owner sets to work and changes everything , sacks the old brings in the new, new logos, new layouts and a big bold strategy for success. But he doesn't announce it piecemeal, he waits until everything's in place then he invites the press and stages a big in-your-face, flashy relaunch and by doing so increase the feel good buzz around the place. Revolution not evolution.
That's what we are about to see.
Probably.
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I feel it to, more reports are coming out now over Everton needing a manager in the summer, looks like Sams off Sunday Monday as we all knew anyway
 

We thinking Sam will say something along the lines of:

It was a great to come back and get a point against a team fighting for their lives

It not great when the minority boo the team but we are working on it and the majority seem happy

I had media commitment so I couldn’t do the lap

Yes preseason is almost finished now and we still discussing budgets for the summer and it’s about quality over quantity, I have 35 players and I need to trim it down

As I said previous I’ve had clarity over my future

O yeah David’s done a fantastic job not as good as me like as we where below West Ham when I took over an that was a great result by me when we beat them

In his press conference tomorrow
 
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blueblue said:
Rooney leaving.. maybe
Sam leaving or staying.. nobody certain.
Elstone leaving.. no mention of replacement.
Brands arriving... maybe.
Walsh leaving... maybe.
All of this uncertainty without even mentioning the player cull that needs to happen and yet total silence from the club.
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It's the anticipation that kills you.
 

graeme2911 said:
Fair post. It is refreshing to read a critic of his acknowledging he has done a good job in the past. I know those targets have generally been much lower than what we currently want to achieve, but he has managed them and that shouldn't be ignored in order to backup a pre or ill formed view point, like the vast majority seem to do.

I don't think we are close to breaking top 6 tbh, unless we get 3+ top quality players. I'm fairly sure most would have been satisfied (note: i dont mean pleased) this season if Koeman had managed 7th again, if it had been close to the top 6/4, and not 10-20 points behind them. Because of his mismanagement, DUs inability to stop it, and the boards timewasting & lack of planning, we are a year behind what we wanted to achieve this season, so that is now our minimum aim for the coming season.
I think Allardyce is capable of that, and unless we could entice a proven top manager, I personally wouldn't give that up for a gamble on Silva, Fonseca etc. just for the sake of getting rid of him.

I know the football isnt good. I do think he plays awful, boring football when things are not going well. We'd be upward looking from day 1 next season, not down, so I'd expect a shift in style, with us controlling the ball a lot more yet still based on pragmatic football.

The only other point I'll make is that I don't really ever recall so many blues demanding entertaining football in my lifetime.
We're a side known for industry, not flamboyance. We've loved SOS and Dogs of War. I just feel that the demand for entertainment stems from the desire to be rid of Allardyce more than it does for a want of a different style of football.
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I, Like the previous poster acknowledge that he has achieved his fundamental objective of avoiding relegation. So I would hope that you would acknowledge that if he were to stay, he would start off the new season with 80-90% of the supporters against him.

There is no evidence the quality of football will improve as we have been safe for many weeks now and are still subjected to turgid football.

With the majority of the fan base against him how many weeks into the new season do you think it would take for the atmosphere to become poisonous? A few poor results and I can see attendances drop dramatically and banners being flown by plane.

So making the point of keeping him makes no rational sense. All it will do is sow discord within the club and instead of stability it will result in the complete opposite, the inevitable mid season sacking.

I think Moshiri is determined to have a complete overhaul, bringing in a new CEO, DOF and manager, and come August I can see Kenwright going as well.
 
graeme2911 said:
Fair post. It is refreshing to read a critic of his acknowledging he has done a good job in the past. I know those targets have generally been much lower than what we currently want to achieve, but he has managed them and that shouldn't be ignored in order to backup a pre or ill formed view point, like the vast majority seem to do.

I don't think we are close to breaking top 6 tbh, unless we get 3+ top quality players. I'm fairly sure most would have been satisfied (note: i dont mean pleased) this season if Koeman had managed 7th again, if it had been close to the top 6/4, and not 10-20 points behind them. Because of his mismanagement, DUs inability to stop it, and the boards timewasting & lack of planning, we are a year behind what we wanted to achieve this season, so that is now our minimum aim for the coming season.
I think Allardyce is capable of that, and unless we could entice a proven top manager, I personally wouldn't give that up for a gamble on Silva, Fonseca etc. just for the sake of getting rid of him.

I know the football isnt good. I do think he plays awful, boring football when things are not going well. We'd be upward looking from day 1 next season, not down, so I'd expect a shift in style, with us controlling the ball a lot more yet still based on pragmatic football.

The only other point I'll make is that I don't really ever recall so many blues demanding entertaining football in my lifetime.
We're a side known for industry, not flamboyance. We've loved SOS and Dogs of War. I just feel that the demand for entertainment stems from the desire to be rid of Allardyce more than it does for a want of a different style of football.
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When I was growing up Shanklys RS team churned out the industrial stuff , we had little curly Alan Ball, thank you very much.
 

With him been on tv monday,i cant see Everton getting rid of him before then,but either way he will go on about how many points he has got from last 7/8 games etc,and say man city was only defeat [if we dont lose to west ham],and so on,not saying a thing about how bad performances were,etc.
 
Latchford Lark said:
Mirror seems to be reporting about standoff between Allardyce and Rooney. Plus points - talk of complete overhaul of management. Negative - saying Moshiri has listened to Sam re plans for next year.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/wayne-rooney-snub-mls-move-12514504is
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They're also claiming Mosh still hasn't made up his mind and there'll be a boardroom meeting next week. Anyone thinking Sam will be gone within 48hrs of season end is going to be dissappointed.
 
I dont think its a you v me type of thing at all myself,think they will/might both go,its the easy headline for the papers to write etc
 

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