Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%

  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%

  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%

  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%
  • Total voters
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blueblue said:
Rooney leaving.. maybe
Sam leaving or staying.. nobody certain.
Elstone leaving.. no mention of replacement.
Brands arriving... maybe.
Walsh leaving... maybe.
All of this uncertainty without even mentioning the player cull that needs to happen and yet total silence from the club.
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Good, clear the dead wood out
 


blueblue said:
All of that is true and I do understand that a lot of these matters are sensitive, but I do feel the uncertainty is contributing to the general feeling of dissatisfaction amongst supporters.
A few clubs have already said that their managers positions will be reviewed after the end of the season. Even Sam said the silence was not helpful.
Everybody knows about the ground by know, even a one liner saying that the project is still moving forward and on target would ease the unrest.
The total silence is unusual and not like Bill Kenwright, it probably shows he is out of the decision making loop more than ever before.
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And all of those are big decisions, most will bring massive upheaval to the club.

Its prudent to wait till the seasons over and then announce everything.
 
blueblue said:
All of that is true and I do understand that a lot of these matters are sensitive, but I do feel the uncertainty is contributing to the general feeling of dissatisfaction amongst supporters.
A few clubs have already said that their managers positions will be reviewed after the end of the season. Even Sam said the silence was not helpful.
Everybody knows about the ground by know, even a one liner saying that the project is still moving forward and on target would ease the unrest.
The total silence is unusual and not like Bill Kenwright, it probably shows he is out of the decision making loop more than ever before.
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At the moment I am in a determinedly optimistic mood with regard to Everton( and its damned hard work). So am viewing the ominous silence in a positive light . I believe what we're witnessing is the calm before the storm, the darkest of the night before the shiny dawn of new hope.
It's like when any organisation long in the doldrums and under new ownership suddenly lurches into crisis under the gentle hand of change. It's realised the company needs drastic change and quickly. So the new owner sets to work and changes everything , sacks the old brings in the new, new logos, new layouts and a big bold strategy for success. But he doesn't announce it piecemeal, he waits until everything's in place then he invites the press and stages a big in-your-face, flashy relaunch and by doing so increase the feel good buzz around the place. Revolution not evolution.
That's what we are about to see.
Probably.
 
The one thing everyone knows about Sam's contract is that it was for 18 months. Now I presume there is bonus's depending on where we finish. This wont be sorted until Sunday. What else is in it no one knows. I would be very surprised if we don't know by early next week what the future holds. I expect him gone and new managers name revealed. But hey this is Everton
 
Brisan123 said:
I think you are missing the whole point of the argument.
yes Sam has done a good job wherever he was,and he done what he was asked here.
However he is not capable of doing what we now require.
A) Challenge the top 6 and eventually break into the top 4.
B) Play an entertaining attacking style of football.
C) Have a style of play that runs through the whole club
D) Sign and play young players and use academy graduates
At no club has Sam done any of the above
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Fair post. It is refreshing to read a critic of his acknowledging he has done a good job in the past. I know those targets have generally been much lower than what we currently want to achieve, but he has managed them and that shouldn't be ignored in order to backup a pre or ill formed view point, like the vast majority seem to do.

I don't think we are close to breaking top 6 tbh, unless we get 3+ top quality players. I'm fairly sure most would have been satisfied (note: i dont mean pleased) this season if Koeman had managed 7th again, if it had been close to the top 6/4, and not 10-20 points behind them. Because of his mismanagement, DUs inability to stop it, and the boards timewasting & lack of planning, we are a year behind what we wanted to achieve this season, so that is now our minimum aim for the coming season.
I think Allardyce is capable of that, and unless we could entice a proven top manager, I personally wouldn't give that up for a gamble on Silva, Fonseca etc. just for the sake of getting rid of him.

I know the football isnt good. I do think he plays awful, boring football when things are not going well. We'd be upward looking from day 1 next season, not down, so I'd expect a shift in style, with us controlling the ball a lot more yet still based on pragmatic football.

The only other point I'll make is that I don't really ever recall so many blues demanding entertaining football in my lifetime.
We're a side known for industry, not flamboyance. We've loved SOS and Dogs of War. I just feel that the demand for entertainment stems from the desire to be rid of Allardyce more than it does for a want of a different style of football.
 
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