Current Affairs Jeremy Corbyn, Russian/Czech agent ?......

[peteblue]

behave yourself he has the peoples interests at heart more than right wing xenophobes like you ever will.

Which peoples......Russians, Cubans.....

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

Which peoples......Russians, Cubans.....

you calling him a traitor........

 

[peteblue]

you calling him a traitor........

Did you not notice the title of the thread......

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

Did you not notice the title of the thread......

theres a question mark after it.........and a lot of dots..............

 

[peteblue]

theres a question mark after it.........and a lot of dots..............

I always thought he was more of a useful idiot than a traitor, but I could be wrong.....

 

[Ruairi77]

you do realize that the party you support are power sharing with the DUP. but by all means, continue with idle speculation about the leader of the opposition.

 

[Socrates]

I always thought he was more of a useful idiot than a traitor, but I could be wrong.....

You still haven't explained how more people are going to die with him as a leader compared to under the present lot.

 

[peteblue]

You still haven't explained how more people are going to die with him as a leader compared to under the present lot.

I didn’t say more people would die. That was your interpretation. Read it again, then think then respond......

 

[Socrates]

I didn’t say more people would die. That was your interpretation. Read it again, then think then respond......

I will live through it one way or another. Not everyone else will though.....

...the implication that you have the resources to live through it but others will not. That is, they will die.

If I have misunderstood, I'm only asking for clarification. Not much to ask is it?

Unless you mean live with it and we'll all have to do that, just as we have to live with the shambles we have bumbling around at present.

If that's the case then are you implying that some people won't be able to live with a Corbyn led government in which case, what actions do you think those people will take?

I'm interested in your thoughts and trying to understand where you are coming from, that's all.

 

[peteblue]

Members of the Jewish community have lodged more than 1,000 official complaints calling on Labour to investigate Jeremy Corbyn over anti-Semitism.
The complaints, delivered to the party headquarters on Monday, allege that Mr Corbyn has brought the Labour party into disrepute by creating a “safe haven” for racists.......

 

[hullefc]

We know why this 'spy' nonsense is constantly re-run as is 'he will not defend the UK' 'wont stick up for the UK', 'acting in the interests of Russia', 'believes Russia' etc. And this general gets away with this blatant call for a coup. The Curragh Mutiny springs to mind as does the coup against the democratically elected left wing Allende government in Chile.

The echoes of those in the Labour party should be a worry for Corbyn as witnessed today with Chris Leslie in parliament and Grapes and Mann's constantly having a go at Corbyn.

British Army 'could stage mutiny under Corbyn', says senior serving general


Generals would not 'allow a prime minister to jeopardise the security of the UK'

• Caroline Mortimer
• @cjmortimer
• Sunday 20 September 2015 12:27 BST

Jeremy Corbyn at an anti-war protest to mark the eleventh anniversary of the start of the war in Afghanistan, in Oct 2012 Rex
A senior serving general has reportedly warned that a Jeremy Corbyn government could face "a mutiny" from the Army if it tried to downgrade them.

The unnamed general said members of the armed forces would begin directly and publicly challenging the labour leader if he tried to scrap Trident, pull out of Nato or announce “any plans to emasculate and shrink the size of the armed forces.”

He told the Sunday Times: “The Army just wouldn’t stand for it. The general staff would not allow a prime minister to jeopardise the security of this country and I think people would use whatever means possible, fair or foul to prevent that. You can’t put a maverick in charge of a country’s security.

“There would be mass resignations at all levels and you would face the very real prospect of an event which would effectively be a mutiny.”

The army could rebel over plans to scrap Trident or pull out of Nato


The general, who served in Northern Ireland during the Troubles, said he and many soldiers were sickened by Mr Corbyn’s refusal to condemn the IRA, which killed 730 troops and injured 7,000 more during the conflict.

His shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, was forced to apologisewhen it was revealed he had called for IRA members, including hunger striker Bobby Sands, to be honoured by the British government.

The general said: “Many soldiers are disgusted by the comments of Corbyn and John McDonnell [about] the IRA — men who have not only murdered British soldiers but also hundreds of members of their own community.”



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• Labour's Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn on scrapping Trident and leaving Nato: 'I don't think that is going to happen'
• Labour leadership: Jeremy Corbyn calls for nuclear disarmament at a CND event
• 'Corbyn's plan to UK from Nato would be disastrous'

Responding to the general's suggestion of a potential mutiny among members of the Armed Forces, a senior Labour source told The Independent: "It does seem like quite an extraordinary statement".

Labour's newly appointed shadow Foreign Secretary, Hilary Benn, has said he does not believe Labour would back either nuclear disarmament or a withdrawal from the military alliance.

Mr Corbyn had earlier announced he would be pulling out of the Stop The War Coalition's annual conference due to his busy schedule.

And it comes after senior members of the Shadow Cabinet said they were planning to rebel if Mr Corbyn attempted to block another vote for air strikes against Syria.

The Sunday Times reported that half of Mr Corbyn’s Cabinet have approached David Cameron to say they are prepared to defy the whip and vote with the government so long as Mr Cameron comes up with a coherent plan".

 

[peteblue]

I will live through it one way or another. Not everyone else will though.....

...the implication that you have the resources to live through it but others will not. That is, they will die.

If I have misunderstood, I'm only asking for clarification. Not much to ask is it?

Unless you mean live with it and we'll all have to do that, just as we have to live with the shambles we have bumbling around at present.

If that's the case then are you implying that some people won't be able to live with a Corbyn led government in which case, what actions do you think those people will take?

I'm interested in your thoughts and trying to understand where you are coming from, that's all.

There is no implication that others will die.

I did indeed mean that I will live through it, or with it as you say. Some people will not be able to live through it as he would certainly destroy our economy. He has no policies except to borrow and spend money on all his promises, which are added to every time he remembers a new sector of voters. Those with resources will, as always, be fine until he gets thrown out, with the economy in tatters. My fear is for those that are already poor and vulnerable......

 

[peteblue]

We know why this 'spy' nonsense is constantly re-run as is 'he will not defend the UK' 'wont stick up for the UK', 'acting in the interests of Russia', 'believes Russia' etc. And this general gets away with this blatant call for a coup. The Curragh Mutiny springs to mind as does the coup against the democratically elected left wing Allende government in Chile.

The echoes of those in the Labour party should be a worry for Corbyn as witnessed today with Chris Leslie in parliament and Grapes and Mann's constantly having a go at Corbyn.

British Army 'could stage mutiny under Corbyn', says senior serving general


Generals would not 'allow a prime minister to jeopardise the security of the UK'

• Caroline Mortimer
• @cjmortimer
• Sunday 20 September 2015 12:27 BST

Jeremy Corbyn at an anti-war protest to mark the eleventh anniversary of the start of the war in Afghanistan, in Oct 2012 Rex
A senior serving general has reportedly warned that a Jeremy Corbyn government could face "a mutiny" from the Army if it tried to downgrade them.

The unnamed general said members of the armed forces would begin directly and publicly challenging the labour leader if he tried to scrap Trident, pull out of Nato or announce “any plans to emasculate and shrink the size of the armed forces.”

He told the Sunday Times: “The Army just wouldn’t stand for it. The general staff would not allow a prime minister to jeopardise the security of this country and I think people would use whatever means possible, fair or foul to prevent that. You can’t put a maverick in charge of a country’s security.

“There would be mass resignations at all levels and you would face the very real prospect of an event which would effectively be a mutiny.”

The army could rebel over plans to scrap Trident or pull out of Nato


The general, who served in Northern Ireland during the Troubles, said he and many soldiers were sickened by Mr Corbyn’s refusal to condemn the IRA, which killed 730 troops and injured 7,000 more during the conflict.

His shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, was forced to apologisewhen it was revealed he had called for IRA members, including hunger striker Bobby Sands, to be honoured by the British government.

The general said: “Many soldiers are disgusted by the comments of Corbyn and John McDonnell [about] the IRA — men who have not only murdered British soldiers but also hundreds of members of their own community.”



READ MORE

• Labour's Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn on scrapping Trident and leaving Nato: 'I don't think that is going to happen'
• Labour leadership: Jeremy Corbyn calls for nuclear disarmament at a CND event
• 'Corbyn's plan to UK from Nato would be disastrous'

Responding to the general's suggestion of a potential mutiny among members of the Armed Forces, a senior Labour source told The Independent: "It does seem like quite an extraordinary statement".

Labour's newly appointed shadow Foreign Secretary, Hilary Benn, has said he does not believe Labour would back either nuclear disarmament or a withdrawal from the military alliance.

Mr Corbyn had earlier announced he would be pulling out of the Stop The War Coalition's annual conference due to his busy schedule.

And it comes after senior members of the Shadow Cabinet said they were planning to rebel if Mr Corbyn attempted to block another vote for air strikes against Syria.

The Sunday Times reported that half of Mr Corbyn’s Cabinet have approached David Cameron to say they are prepared to defy the whip and vote with the government so long as Mr Cameron comes up with a coherent plan".

Are you really surprised that those who love, value and protect our country would not allow a nutter to destroy it.......

 

[bluestevon]

There is no implication that others will die.

I did indeed mean that I will live through it, or with it as you say. Some people will not be able to live through it as he would certainly destroy our economy. He has no policies except to borrow and spend money on all his promises, which are added to every time he remembers a new sector of voters. Those with resources will, as always, be fine until he gets thrown out, with the economy in tatters. My fear is for those that are already poor and vulnerable......

Good post Pete, one small problem with that, check throughout history levels if givernment debt when each party leaves office, pretty sure the conservatives not labour do what you reckon Corbyn will, as in leave a huge debt when leaving office etc.

 

[bluestevon]

Are you really surprised that those who love, value and protect our country would not allow a nutter to destroy it.......

I think any serving military or former military officer who suggests staging a coup to remove a democratically elected leaders is a traitor mate and should be in jail