Sir Seamus Coleman

[Grarghsies]

I think the encouraging thing is that Moyes is more willing to play other RB's out of position to give them gametime rather than drop Coleman. Playing Coleman gives us a balance to our play that I've only seen in recent times when Donovan was playing RM for us. He's mustard.

 

[Astro78]

I will be receiving my new 10/11 kit with Coleman's name gracing the back on Friday. Can't wait to see him in action in person later this year.

 

[TheDevils2001]

Wolfsburg would provide a good test to our pre-season form, and whether or not we are ready for the start of the season, if Coleman plays in this match and does well, I am pretty certain he would be starting against Blackburn!

 

[Deleted member 28206]

His enthusiasm alone makes him worth his place. Never gives up on anything, and always willing to go forward. He's going to be some player.

Half headless chicken half Stark Enterprise Jericho Missile.

 

[ToxtethBlue]

I've seen nothing to suggest he is any worse defensively than the likes of Hibbert and Neville. He's got much tougher tests ahead, granted, but you can only defend what's put infront of you, and Coleman has done nothing wrong as of yet, aswell as offering us another dimension with his varied attacking play. He overlaps intelligently, is comfortable carrying the ball forward and he can even cut inside and drive into central areas.

If we are going to continue playing with non dribbling wide players who like to drift inside then we are going to need our fullbacks to provide the width and offer attacking options. I don't think he gets forward anymore than Neville, who's support play has always been decent, the major difference is Coleman actually does something when he gets into these positions, he's far more effective. So no, I don't buy it that he's some sort of indisciplined, attacking fullback.

I just want to see him atleast sharing right back duties with Neville now, he deserves it, he's impressed more often than not. If both Hibbert and Neville are ahead of him then I really don't know what to say.

 

[chicoazul]

Nailed it Toccy, people are using his debut at left back, against a good European side, I'm a [Poor language removed] team, up against an excellent winger as proof of his lax defending.

 

[ToxtethBlue]

Indeed, and he was up against it from the start, the whole team was unbalanced and missing key players. I think people are just trying to pick holes in his game to justify Moyes not selecting him. There's little evidence to suggest he has major problems defensively, that might change the more we see him, but up to now he's dealt with everything he's come up against.

Stinger made a good point, given his style of play, he could also pin good wingers back and keep them occupied, negating there attacking game, similar to what Maicon and Ramos did during the World cup. And if you want to get the best out of Bilyaletdinov, I think Coleman would be the man to really help him out and create space for him.

 

[george telfer]

The white cafu going to be some player.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

And lets face it, baines is hardly the greatest defender in the world but is played because his attacking play far outweighs any defensive issues he might have.

 

[stinger]

I just want to see him atleast sharing right back duties with Neville now, he deserves it, he's impressed more often than not. If both Hibbert and Neville are ahead of him then I really don't know what to say.

Agree. And I know what I would say - MOYES OUT!

 

[Neiler]

Indeed, and he was up against it from the start, the whole team was unbalanced and missing key players. I think people are just trying to pick holes in his game to justify Moyes not selecting him. There's little evidence to suggest he has major problems defensively, that might change the more we see him, but up to now he's dealt with everything he's come up against.

Stinger made a good point, given his style of play, he could also pin good wingers back and keep them occupied, negating there attacking game, similar to what Maicon and Ramos did during the World cup. And if you want to get the best out of Bilyaletdinov, I think Coleman would be the man to really help him out and create space for him.

It depends on your eye mate, ive noticed one or two defensive frailties in his game and i think having him in the team does change the system slightly in the sense that at the mo to justify his inclusion ita what he brings to the table in terms of an offensive outlet and the potential for penetration and chance creation. These are his strengths its improtant he has the oppurtunity to have the platform to do that or a licence similar to Baines, he does get more forward then Neville and Hibbert or at least find himself in more advanced and dangerous psitions. I think it wil leave us more exposed and make the centre halfs more vulnerabel, that said it may be worth the risk, especialy if Mofro/Heit or Arteta can fit into a system to offer defensive support, or at least play deeper to try and counter. I take the point about pinning back opposition full backs, and its a good one, but we all know games are balanced in the sense there will always be a point in some games where the opposition is on top and that when you need your full backs holding the defensive line sometimes very deeply. I mentioned his height as well it will be a factor on set pecies and while i havent seen out muscled as yet running down the line tracking back its something i think could also be a factor.

But i agree he deserves a chance and i hope he gets it, hes earned it and hopefully all my concerns prove not to be the case and this stage in his development.

I like the dea of him playing further forward on the right though at this stage of his development.

 

[stinger]

I really don't know how playing further forward on the right would help him develop as a player, he needs to play full back as aften as possible, to help him working on his positional defensive game, as well as decision making.
He could do a decent job as right midfielder, but we need a right back long term more than we need right midfielder.

 

[Neiler]

I really don't know how playing further forward on the right would help him develop as a player, he needs to play full back as aften as possible, to help him working on his positional defensive game, as well as decision making.
He could do a decent job as right midfielder, but we need a right back long term more than we need right midfielder.

Good points mate, and id agree thing is id rather see him there then not get games at all and i think he would be effective. I supose its always that balance of taking the risk on the chin to give a player expierence while they develop their game especially in defence.

 

[ToxtethBlue]

It depends on your eye mate, ive noticed one or two defensive frailties in his game and i think having him in the team does change the system slightly in the sense that at the mo to justify his inclusion ita what he brings to the table in terms of an offensive outlet and the potential for penetration and chance creation. These are his strengths its improtant he has the oppurtunity to have the platform to do that or a licence similar to Baines, he does get more forward then Neville and Hibbert or at least find himself in more advanced and dangerous psitions. I think it wil leave us more exposed and make the centre halfs more vulnerabel, that said it may be worth the risk, especialy if Mofro/Heit or Arteta can fit into a system to offer defensive support, or at least play deeper to try and counter. I take the point about pinning back opposition full backs, and its a good one, but we all know games are balanced in the sense there will always be a point in some games where the opposition is on top and that when you need your full backs holding the defensive line sometimes very deeply. I mentioned his height as well it will be a factor on set pecies and while i havent seen out muscled as yet running down the line tracking back its something i think could also be a factor.

But i agree he deserves a chance and i hope he gets it, hes earned it and hopefully all my concerns prove not to be the case and this stage in his development.

I like the dea of him playing further forward on the right though at this stage of his development.

I wouldn't disagree with that, there's no evidence to suggest he's a brilliant defender either, there's no doubting there's probably an area of two of his game he needs to work on, that's only natural in players of his age. But to say we have a fullback who is a brilliant, complete defender would be wide of the mark.

He's up against two players who are in the latter stages or there careers and still have one or two defensive frailties, Hibbert's positioning can be dreadful at times and Neville backs off far too much and is always trying to make up for his lack of pace. You can only compare him to what he's up against, and the competition isn't all that much, there's a reason people have been wanting us to get a new right fullback over the last few years, neither of them have ever been considered the long term future, and they've had alot of time to cement that position.

His height is an interesting point but we've gone into many games with Hibbert and Baines at fullback, and Hibbert is similar in height and stature to Coleman. Neville isn't much bigger. We don't possess aerial strength at right back unless someone like Heitinga or Jagielka plays there. That's why we've balanced it out in other areas, the likes of Fellaini, Beckford, Rodwell, Cahill, Saha and Anichebe can all come back and defend set pieces.

 

[Brownie]

I don't see any reason not to play him to be honest, it's not like he's been caught out of position time and time again. Playing two attacking full backs is something that needs to happen for us sooner rather than later, it's a large part of being a top team. You then have to trust your centre backs to be good enough to play 2v2 against the opposition's forwards and your central midfielders to be intelligent with their positioning. I think Heitinga/Jagielka and Arteta/Fellaini can do that.