Holgate Racially Abused By Firmino - The Guardian

Barca Blue · January 21, 2018

Rio Ferdinand fighting Masons corner ....fair play

Cyrillie Regis passing bringing it back in the limelight......RIP MR REGIS

dublinbluenose · January 21, 2018

The silence on this is defening

davek · January 21, 2018

dublinbluenose said:
The silence on this is defening

How can an anti-racist organisation dealing with football NOT get involved in this?

Unreal. The Kopites frighten everyone. Probably expected twittergeddon and a hand grenade in the post.

davek · January 21, 2018

Toffeelover said:
They never search for Heysel.

I've never heard of it. What's that?

They've effectively throttled all knowledge of the atrocity.

Toffeelover · January 21, 2018

davek said:
I've never heard of it. What's that?

They've successfully throttled all attention on the atrocity.

Dave, it is that which is what they are trying to do now, they cannot just hold their hands up and say fair cop.

davek · January 21, 2018

Toffeelover said:
Dave, it is that which is what they are trying to do now, they cannot just hold their hands up and say fair cop.

They dont dare admit wrong doing. It;d set a dangerous precedent for self reflection - and that would lead to the conclusion that the setting up of their club 125 years ago was really not worth the human cost.

BernieH · January 21, 2018

davek said:
How can an anti-racist organisation dealing with football NOT get involved in this?

Unreal. The Kopites frighten everyone. Probably expected twittergeddon and a hand grenade in the post.

In the interview Troy(forgot his last name) said that they weren't allowed to approach the players until the FA have finished investigating, not sure what kick it out can do if they are hamstrung like that and if that is the case I ask myself why they're not allowed to support players who have been abused(allegedly or not)

Titus Bramble · January 21, 2018

Just seen Ferdinands comments without seeing the whole clip. Is he involved with kick it out? Wondering how he knows kick it out didn’t get in touch with Holgate.

It’s pretty shocking though. A high profile racism incident and they haven’t got involved. Unjustifiable on their part.

BernieH · January 21, 2018

Titus Bramble said:
Just seen Ferdinands comments without seeing the whole clip. Is he involved with kick it out? Wondering how he knows kick it out didn’t get in touch with Holgate.

It’s pretty shocking though. A high profile racism incident and they haven’t got involved. Unjustifiable on their part.

The guy from kick it out was on the Premier League show on BT sport, he told them they weren't allowed to approach the players by order of the FA.

Toffeelover · January 21, 2018

BernieH said:
The guy from kick it out was on the Premier League show on BT sport, he told them they weren't allowed to approach the players by order of the FA.

Why because it may not fit with what they want to say and decide, I wonder.

jaycee · January 21, 2018

If found guilty would clubs be able to ban Firminio entering the stadium,much in the same way a supporter would get banned?

Titus Bramble · January 21, 2018

BernieH said:
The guy from kick it out was on the Premier League show on BT sport, he told them they weren't allowed to approach the players by order of the FA.

Cheers mate, didn’t see that.

So the FA are blocking support to a young black player in the midst of a race row. Do we know why? Because that is beyond appalling.

BernieH · January 21, 2018

Toffeelover said:
Why because it may not fit with what they want to say and decide, I wonder.

I don't know, that's just the way it is in these cases, they can't do anything until investigations have been carried out, to what end I don't know and defeats the object really.

BernieH · January 21, 2018

Titus Bramble said:
Cheers mate, didn’t see that.

So the FA are blocking support to a young black player in the midst of a race row. Do we know why? Because that is beyond appalling.

It doesn't make sense, it won't surprise you to learn that he said UEFA were even harder to deal with.

I'm surprised at the FA though, maybe they think it's showing guilt on Firminho part if kick it out side with Holgate, I don't know.

Titus Bramble · January 21, 2018

BernieH said:
It doesn't make sense, it won't surprise you to learn that he said UEFA were even harder to deal with.

I'm surprised at the FA though, maybe they think it's showing guilt on Firminho part if kick it out side with Holgate, I don't know.

Very strange. Surely kick it out should be in contact with both sides of the argument? It’s not admitting guilt or siding with either party.

I don’t understand why they require the FAs permission to offer help and/or support