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I dont want him back. However, what I think Moyes did do well, fantastically well, was embrace us when he joined. The whole 'peoples club' approach. I think Koeman has badly underestimated who we are, what we want and what makes us tick.

The signing of Cuco Martinez sums this up

Very close to our own version of "the West Ham way".

What are we? In my opinion we are a football team a million miles away from the top 6. A shift in that is going to take a lot longer than 3 transfer windows and alot more than 200m.
 

Like everyone else, I'm always curious as to what he would have done with Moshiri's money.

The fact is, he assembled a squad with fifty times the tenacity of our current crop at a fiftieth of the price. Several times.

He's not my first choice, Tuchel is - although I'm not going to be as ardent about him as I was with Koeman when Martinez went, because I'm obviously just an eejit who can't even say mass properly, or pick our next inspirational manager.

Plus he probably wouldn't budge for anything.

Given that I'm not keen on Dyche or Howe (forget Ancelotti, just a rich man's Koeman imo, bigger than the club etc), Moyes return would make a lot of sense. 2 year contract maximum, Unsworth as assitant, Walsh booted along with Koeman and I'd be reasonably happy.
 

Like everyone else, I'm always curious as to what he would have done with Moshiri's money.

Spent lots of it on a defender he had never watched who could not head a ball. After that probably got a midfielder with a boss shot and nothing much else and got a striker in who was in no way shape or form going to work in the formation he played.

Basically I am saying Moyes with more money does not seem to work very well.
 
Don't want this loser anywhere near the club.

You say he's a loser, and he does seem to have become one since leaving Everton, but despite never winning anything at the club, a lot of our fans are short sighted when it comes to his achievements here. Everton were in turmoil before Moyes arrived, relegation battle after relegation battle and the club had turned in to failures long before Moyes arrived at the club. Some of the worst results in my time supporting Everton came just before he got here, like the Tranmere 0-3 in the FA Cup which was an utter humiliation. And then there was the 0-3 in the Quarter Final at Boro which sealed Walter Smith's fate.

Moyes changed all that and turned us from a side expecting to finish 14th-17th each season, to one that was capable of coming 5th-7th. You often hear people using the phrase 'Be careful what you wish for' towards Arsenal fans with Wenger but it turned out to be true with our fanbase too with their ridicule towards Moyes. 'He's taken us as far as he can' they cried lol. In came Martinez and after a great first season we're now in turmoil once again and the one massive influence of the Martinez era has left us for Champions League football and a title challenge. When we are miles away from the top 6 again this season that'll be 4 seasons in a row where we haven't got close to the best finishes Moyes got us.

Moyes got us to a Cup Final, a 4th placed finish and numerous European qualifications. I'd be delighted to just be back where we were under him instead of now being told we have no chance of challenging the likes of Spurs, and should expect to roll over for them when they turn up at Goodison.

I absolutely don't want him back now though, as both parties have moved on.
 

You say he's a loser, and he does seem to have become one since leaving Everton, but despite never winning anything at the club, a lot of our fans are short sighted when it comes to his achievements here. Everton were in turmoil before Moyes arrived, relegation battle after relegation battle and the club had turned in to failures long before Moyes arrived at the club. Some of the worst results in my time supporting Everton came just before he got here, like the Tranmere 0-3 in the FA Cup which was an utter humiliation. And then there was the 0-3 in the Quarter Final at Boro which sealed Walter Smith's fate.

Moyes changed all that and turned us from a side expecting to finish 14th-17th each season, to one that was capable of coming 5th-7th. You often hear people using the phrase 'Be careful what you wish for' towards Arsenal fans with Wenger but it turned out to be true with our fanbase too with their ridicule towards Moyes. 'He's taken us as far as he can' they cried lol. In came Martinez and after a great first season we're now in turmoil once again and the one massive influence of the Martinez era has left us for Champions League football and a title challenge. When we are miles away from the top 6 again this season that'll be 4 seasons in a row where we haven't got close to the best finishes Moyes got us.

Moyes got us to a Cup Final, a 4th placed finish and numerous European qualifications. I'd be delighted to just be back where we were under him instead of now being told we have no chance of challenging the likes of Spurs, and should expect to roll over for them when they turn up at Goodison.

I absolutely don't want him back now though, as both parties have moved on.

Erm..we came 7th last year. That is kind of close to 6th.

It is all very well having a good season and qualifying for Europe but if you do not capitalize on them by getting humped by average sides once you make it there then what has truly been achieved?
 
Erm..we came 7th last year. That is kind of close to 6th.

It is all very well having a good season and qualifying for Europe but if you do not capitalize on them by getting humped by average sides once you make it there then what has truly been achieved?

I said Moyes' best finishes, so 4th beating the RS and Man United in the same season. He also got us two 5th placed finishes and to a Cup Final.

We were 8 points behind 6th last season and 14 points off 5th. I will admit that we had seasons under Moyes where we were also adrift of the top 5 or 6, like in his final 2 seasons at the club but the consolation was that we finished ahead of Liverpool in both of those seasons.
 
I said Moyes' best finishes, so 4th beating the RS and Man United in the same season. He also got us two 5th placed finishes and to a Cup Final.

We were 8 points behind 6th last season and 14 points off 5th. I will admit that we had seasons under Moyes where we were also adrift of the top 5 or 6, like in his final 2 seasons at the club but the consolation was that we finished ahead of Liverpool in both of those seasons.
He (and the board) had eleven years to make mediocrity the new norm. Sad to realize there are a growing majority of fans out there who have known no other Everton.
 
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