2017/18 Morgan Schneiderlin

[Paul w]

2 bookable challenges,it was an absolute certainty he was going to get sent off very poor decision making from sniders.

 

[Azzurri]

It was a stupid challenge because it was obvious the referee was going to even things up.

We have got to be smarter/cuter with stuff like this.

It was a perfectly fine tackle for me but if you play the percentages you have:

A referee who has incorrectly sent off a player from the other side.
5 minutes to go
Tackle on an proper snide player who was being snide all game
Already booked
Away from home against a "glamour club"
Formerly played for the other clubs rivals so the crowd will be putting added pressure on the referee
Leaves his feet
Tackle comes in from the side/back.

It was obvious someone would be sent off for us, people were saying it from the moment Walker was sent up that the ref would even things up.

If Schniederlin stays on his feet we do not have this problem.

Nobody is excusing referees and blaming players. The problem is that's just how football is these days. We must play smarter. We are now missing an important player for a very tough game and for what?

If Schneiderlin stays on his feet, one of the best forwards in world football turns on the halfway line and runs at a tired not Ashley Williams.

And, to answer your question, we're now missing an important player for a very tough game for making a perfectly good tackle at a critical stage of the match.

 

[DanEFC92]

If Schneiderlin stays on his feet, one of the best forwards in world football turns on the halfway line and runs at a tired Ashley Williams.

And, to answer your question, we're now missing an important player for a very tough game for making a perfectly good tackle at a critical stage of the match.

Williams was subbed by then.

 

[blue76]

If Schneiderlin stays on his feet, one of the best forwards in world football turns on the halfway line and runs at a tired Ashley Williams.

And, to answer your question, we're now missing an important player for a very tough game for making a perfectly good tackle at a critical stage of the match.

Williams wasn't on the pitch mate.

 

[Azzurri]

Williams was subbed by then.

Please, mate, don't let the facts cloud my hateful mind.

 

[Khalekan]

Williams wasn't on the pitch mate.

lol

 

[Papa Shango]

If Schneiderlin stays on his feet, one of the best forwards in world football turns on the halfway line and runs at a tired not Ashley Williams.

And, to answer your question, we're now missing an important player for a very tough game for making a perfectly good tackle at a critical stage of the match.

I have seen a few people say this...

The fact it was a good tackle is completely irrelevant. He got sent off for it. Everyone could see it coming and the best way to avoid it is not to put yourself in that position. Have someone else take the bullet if it needs to be done.

Just to clarify, I think it was a good tackle, it was a rubbish booking, the refs these days are awful and the game is screwed if stuff like that results in a booking. But that is the footballing world Everton are playing in and you have to play the game smarter in my opinion. All comes down to mentality again for me, its where we have struggled for years and what separates the good sides from the top ones.

 

[Azzurri]

I have seen a few people say this...

The fact it was a good tackle is completely irrelevant. He got sent off for it. Everyone could see it coming and the best way to avoid it is not to put yourself in that position. Have someone else take the bullet if it needs to be done.

Just to clarify, I think it was a good tackle, it was a rubbish booking, the refs these days are awful and the game is screwed if stuff like that results in a booking. But that is the footballing world Everton are playing in and you have to play the game smarter in my opinion. All comes down to mentality again for me, its where we have struggled for years and what separates the good sides from the top ones.

I see that, but it's not a trip or a handball where the ref could potentially send him off or give him a warning according to the rules, it was a perfectly good challenge. If the ref sends him off for blinking, is he stupid for doing that? No one else could have taken the bullet as there was no one else around, and there was actually no cynical foul made. I get that some players make stupid decisions and give the ref the chance to make a mistake, but I don't think Schneiderlin's tackle was one of them given the circumstances.

 

[maccavennie]

I was disappointed with his performance last night with the ball ( off it I thought he marked Silva very well ) but he's the player I want on the ball who dictates play and I felt nearly every time he got the ball he just hoofed it as far as he could with little thought to it. Gana is brilliant at winning the ball back but does very little with it so we need Morgan to really step up and take games by the scruff of the neck in the middle of the park and get the moves in motion.

 

[Papa Shango]

I see that, but it's not a trip or a handball where the ref could potentially send him off or give him a warning according to the rules, it was a perfectly good challenge. If the ref sends him off for blinking, is he stupid for doing that? No one else could have taken the bullet as there was no one else around, and there was actually no cynical foul made. I get that some players make stupid decisions and give the ref the chance to make a mistake, but I don't think Schneiderlin's tackle was one of them given the circumstances.

You can not and never do get sent off for blinking though. (Though in a derby who knows...)

You can quite easily get sent off for leaving your feet, its not right, but it does happen, especially in the circumstances surrounding this one like I already mentioned.

He gave the ref the option to book him. If he stays on his feet the referee doesn't have the chance to make a poor decision which he was no doubt dying to make and of course Aguero gladly took the tackle so he could make a meal of it.

It's not the end of the world or anything. I am more annoyed about their goal, not Holgate's header, he has to get a head on that regardless, I am still fuming that a player was left on the penalty spot unmarked when we had a man advantage. Stuff like that drives me mad.

 

[d34noj]

Great challenge. Never a yellow. Football has turned too soft, it's almost laughable.

Walkers was a definite second yellow, turns to look at DCL, makes no movement for the ball just the player. Wipes him out.

 

[moonunderthewater]

Ha Ha. Come on, they were both poor decisions. That ref needs a holiday in the North West Counties

 

[Tel001]

So are the rules that you can make a challenge but if you even touch the other player then it's a yellow card? Has football seriously come to this ffs?

It's getting stupid now isn't it.,. Football will be crap to watch in 10 years time IMO.. the 90's was a good time to watch football IMO (apart from is being crap obviously). The backpass rule being applied was great for the game, and players could actually contest the ball and get into teams that had better technical players... can you imagine wimbledon in the prem now? Lol.. they literally would never finish with 11 players

 

[Tel001]

I was replying to what seemed like a few people saying he didn't touch him. So caught him with his trailing leg is relevant to that. I remember it being a tackle that seemed a bit from behind, but I'm in work and can't view it again now but after watching several replays last night my opinion was foul and that he shouldn't have gone to ground there.

I don't really know why people are freaking out here.

Because it wasn't a foul and now he's banned for Chelsea

 

[bicycleheader]

Because it wasn't a foul and now he's banned for Chelsea

I mean more why people can't discuss it and take other peoples points without freaking out