2017/18 Davy Klaassen

[davek]

Thought he showed a few glimpses of that last night. Maybe I was mistaken.

We can each only say what we saw, I suppose.

As said at the outset: I thought he had an ok game. I'm not writing him off, not by a long chalk. However, the game last night sort of underlined the view I'd built up of him when he played in the EL last season that he was a bit lacking in pace and not that adept at breaking a defence down.

 

[Connor]

Got MOTM from the Mail.

Played Davy.

 

[davek]

I noticed you put Barkley in those lineups, he's gone mate. Soz.

He's just giving his opinion. Leave him in peace FFS.

 

[davek]

Got MOTM from the Mail.

Played Davy.

...and the BBC.

Ha Ha.

 

[Connor]

...and the BBC.

Ha Ha.

Deserved MOTM in my eyes.

Looked like a translucent Lampard.

 

[davek]

Deserved MOTM in my eyes.

Looked like a translucent Lampard.

Ha Ha.

 

[Mickey]

You're being wilfully obtuse.

This is what you said Dave:

Pace in todays game: you dont have it then you cant do a thing worth doing.

I showed you players who you rate but are as slow as a cart horse and then you said:

He's not that type of player.

Which is it Dave you can't have it both ways?.

Cheek calling me obtuse lol

 

[BigDunc'sFod]

Pace in todays game: you dont have it then you cant do a thing worth doing.

To be fair Dave's right.

Cantona, Zidane, Pirlo, Bergkamp were all fast as anything I've ever seen. Same goes for recent players like Ozil, Eriksen and Mata.

If you don't have pace you're nothing.

 

[davek]

I'll just leave this here so others might be guided:

"Speed" = how fast something moves

"Pace" = speed at which something happens or changes


I think the above might clarify the point I've been trying to make.

 

[rochdaleblue]

We can each only say what we saw, I suppose.

As said at the outset: I thought he had an ok game. I'm not writing him off, not by a long chalk. However, the game last night sort of underlined the view I'd built up of him when he played in the EL last season that he was a bit lacking in pace and not that adept at breaking a defence down.

To be honest, I don't think the system we started with got the best out of any Everton player in that first half, klassen included.

 

[davek]

To be honest, I don't think the system we started with got the best out of any Everton player in that first half, klassen included.

The three played up front was a clown shoes selection.

 

[Titus Bramble]

No, I didn't ignore it, I addressed it.

You wouldn't class it as creativity ?

 

[Connor]

Ha Ha.

I think you've got concerns about Davy taking your spot as the only Davey about for the Blues.

Leave him alone ffs.

 

[Kever10]

I'll just leave this here so others might be guided:

"Speed" = how fast something moves

"Pace" = speed at which something happens or changes


I think the above might clarify the point I've been trying to make.

Well if this is your definition of pace in a team, then I would say Klassen has plenty. For me he was extremely quick in thought and execution, didn't dwell on the ball once and kept everything ticking over, lots of lovely 1 touch football.

So while he might not have pace in the traditional sense, Ie, "sprinting speed" , he has plenty of pace in your sense, Ie, "something speed" .

So he'll be fine.

 

[davek]

You wouldn't class it as creativity ?

I said it was an example of him needing to be up alongside defenders to find a way through. It's what happens only when a team is rank and are camping out deep in their own half so he has no defensive responsibilities whatsoever. That wont happen that often in the PL. Usually he'll be facing them and looking to pick a pass - and avoid challenges whilst doing so.

I'm not saying he cant be a success. He might be. But I dont think it'll come easy to him in this league.

Immediately last night you saw Sandro come on and you just know he's going to breakthrough in this league. I didn't feel that way about Klaassens.