Mayor's Bramley Moore Dock Open Letter To Evertonians

[CrustySack]

Funny how all these soul less grounds like the eithad and emirates seem to still see their teams win derbies/cup semi finals and to top 4/title finishes. Whereas the snarling Goodison that everyone on here is raving about hasnt exactly done much for us in terms of trophies or derby wins has it.

Without the snarling Goodison we'd probably be in the Championship

 

[GwladysPhil]

I am very worried about the design now.

I'm not going to trust an architect who will be getting paid a fortune by the club that a running track will not impact the design, or a corrupt mayor.

 

[Dubai Blue]

Aye, but if you look at their design the lower 'stands' aren't really stands at all - they're structures built 'on' the pitch.

I'd prefer us to avoid that if at all possible due to the dissipation of the atmosphere.

even that is too far away. I don't want 10/15m of gap from row A to touchline - I wanna be close enough to slap someone!

 

[Telford-Feb-85]

Think modern guidelines mean you can only get 10m or so from the pitch anyway. Intimacy and modern stadia don't go. So that said, think it's more than possible to do if you want intimate by modern standards.

 

[Dubai Blue]

Stick the running at the Oval in Bebington FFS

 

[The Rhino]

Without the snarling Goodison we'd probably be in the Championship

Nonsense mate. I couldn't care less how close the stands are to the pitch so long as it isn't West Ham style crapness which it won't be as the architect has consistently said. The main thing is that money continues to be invested into the playing squad as thats what will win us trophies and derbies, Not a bunch of lids sat 2 feet closer to the pitch.

 

[Kever10]

Could it not be the case, that the idea of hosting these events in the prominent new city centre hub that will be Liverpool waters, a stones throw from the centre for visiting tourists, with all of the cities major hotels there to house fans and athletes alike, is both a major selling point, and also a catalyst to get the whole thing moving if accepted?

And if that is the case, and the stadium on the docks would be seen as a wow factor centre piece, would it not make sense to put any additional cost of building a movable element into the design we have rather than build a 2nd purpose built stadium elsewhere in the city boundaries (stonebridge cross) that may or may not be used for other events in the future?

Bear in mind, not a brick has been layed on this stadium we have proposed, so it need not be 1 thing adapted for the others purpose as is the case for all of the other examples people have shown here (Man City, West Ham, Hampden Park). Any design elements that will allow the stadium to be purpose built for football and still allow for athletics, can be incorporated so that neither is compromised, with the additional cost of transformation falling on City Council.

If so, and our stadium is going to cost circa £300m, would the council be able to pay the extra £100m+ in collaboration, to have state of the art technology installed as has been shown in other examples (Spurs, Schalke, etc) whether than be movable pitch, move able stands, etc.

They would not then be left with an expensive stadium built perhaps in the middle of nowhere for the purpose of a 3 week event, but instead would host the event in a state of the art stadium in a prime location, which could also be used again for future events, all for the benefit of the city.

Just a thought like, but I'm not an architect.

 

[Dubai Blue]

I don't know Allianz's dimensions, but I reckon you can fit a 400m running track on top of the 1st tier. If that's possible, some simple structural support and its sorted

 

[4737carlin]

Think modern guidelines mean you can only get 10m or so from the pitch anyway. Intimacy and modern stadia don't go. So that said, think it's more than possible to do if you want intimate by modern standards.

Interesting point about modern guidelines, im pretty sure there are rules about how step a stand is and as for being right close to the pitch I think the days of the front row being almost able to touch the goal net are long gone. Running track or not I expect the front rows to be several feet further away from the sideline then they are now

 

[orly]

even that is too far away. I don't want 10/15m of gap from row A to touchline - I wanna be close enough to slap someone!

From Dubai?!? Are you inspector gadget ?

 

[Dubai Blue]

From Dubai?!?

"The magic of technology"

 

[TheFinnFan]

I am very worried about the design now.

I'm not going to trust an architect who will be getting paid a fortune by the club that a running track will not impact the design, or a corrupt mayor.

Ahahaha

 

[beachy]

I don't know Allianz's dimensions, but I reckon you can fit a 400m running track on top of the 1st tier. If that's possible, some simple structural support and its sorted

Nope dont think a running track could fit on the lower tier. Neither could it fit in other steeply raked stadiums like Juve or San mames.

It all points to a more Emirates/Wembley design.

 

[The Rhino]

Nope dont think a running track could fit on the lower tier. Neither could it fit in other steeply raked stadiums like Juve or San mames.

It all points to a more Emirates/Wembley design.

And if that got us a city style takeover and won us titles and trophies would you seriously be arsed? I don't get why everyone's worried the main thing is we get a new shiny new stadium which hopefully allows us to push on down the line.

It won't be like West Hams so who's really bothered. The Emirates is only crap for atmosphere because it's filled with largely day trippers. Stick 60,000 Kiev ultras in there and I guarantee you there would be no complaints of "a flat atmosphere".

 

[jonnyboy316]

And if that got us a city style takeover and won us titles and trophies would you seriously be arsed? I don't get why everyone's worried the main thing is we get a new shiny new stadium which hopefully allows us to push on down the line.

It won't be like West Hams so who's really bothered. The Emirates is only crap for atmosphere because it's filled with largely day trippers. Stick 60,000 Kiev ultras in there and I guarantee you there would be no complaints of "a flat atmosphere".

Yes because all the public sound bites from those involved have referenced words like atmospheric and intimacy so if that is not now delivered it would be very disappointing. I am still hopeful that there is a logical explanation as the board knows how sensitive this is to the supporters so I would be shocked if they would shaft us on it. However, from the information made public so far it is difficult to see how we are going to see the end result that the majority of the fan base are looking for.