Will Everton grow further as a club and Manchester United meeting their downfall?

[Steve Wigan]

If you read it out loud and backwards with your head under water it makes good sense and may reveal the meaning of life

I tried that, and all I got was bubbles. Which, somehow is how this thread started.....

 

[billytoffee]

Sorry bud, be arsed reading all that. Got to 1st bit and jibbed it. If you post more than 20 words I'm not reading it....

Twitter world mate....

28 words.

Arsed reading all that.

Got to '20' and then stopped reading. Soz lad.

Mmmmmmm - the future GOT! #GOTTER

 

[ClausThomsen]

Also, Manchester United, will they get asset stripped and their oversized Old Trafford stadium capacity reduced by appromixately 20,000-25,000

Why would they reduce capacity? That would devalue the club and reduce income. Plans are to increase capacity.

Alex Ferguson was lucky at Manchester United considering how poorly he did during 1986-1990 when he won nothing and how Manchester United became perennial overachievers with a bigger stadium than everyone else

Wut? He was an excellent manager and luck had little to do with it. And how does by far the biggest club in the country and possibly the world become an overachiever?

(Liverpool have caught up with Manchester United with expanding their stadium over 50,000, who are both the same size except 1 of them having a better domestic record and the other a better european record) and with football being a tough cut-throat business.

55,000 v 75,000 - How is that caught up?

The real question is whether Manchester United will ever get to a level where they are a mid-table side like 1990s and 2000s Everton in a smaller sized stadium and Everton now getting to a level where they are a top 4 side?

We're 7th - That's not getting to a level of being a top 4 side. And it's not the real question. Nobody is asking that question. It's at best a confusing thought.

Under these owners, this season is an opportunity that him and the astute Koeman have spectacularly done well. Seasons of success and further growth after the new stadium by 2022.

You realise it's more the Moshiri show than the Kenwright show these days?

 

[chippy1722]

It all depends on how much intent we show this summer, if we lose Ross/Rom then the rebuild starts again, Utd will go out and spend £150m plus this summer on Griezmann etc.

 

[Username]

Everton are the gear.

 

[Brisan123]

Mate?

My thoughts exactly

 

[Bud McBlokeski]

Manchester United got to 7 or 8 FA Cup finals in 23 years, whereas Everton got to 3 FA Cup finals in 4 years during 1985-1989, and from 1990 onwards Alex Ferguson was lucky at Manchester United considering how poorly he did during 1986-1990 when he won nothing and how Manchester United became perennial overachievers with a bigger stadium than everyone else.

I actually spat out my tea when I read this (Yorkshire, milk, colour of He-Man). Alex Ferguson is literally a living legend amongst managers. He won EVERYTHING a manager can win. He wasn't an overachiever - he was an achiever.

 

[big bobs beard]

We will never catch United. Their support is worldwide, half the kids in the country becme United fans under the Fergie era, thanks to 20 years of constant winning and top class players. They will never become smaller, as their generation of glory hunters will grow up and spawn even more, similar to the RS where their glory hunters spawned the current lot. We just need to try and get a team who can compete at the top level.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Don't know that it's the best time to be questioning utds overall place in the hierarchy when they're on the brink of winning 2 trophies this season with arguably the best manager in the world at the helm.

 

[Brahford]

They're far too big a club now to have a sustained barren season. Akin to Reàl, Bayern etc

 

[kenada_blue]

Fully expect a title challenge from them next season...So no.

 

[roydo]

Strangest OP for ages, and lets face it, we have had a few contenders.

Interesting to see the serial relegation fodder now over achieving with CL, PL, Fa Cup and heaven knows what else.

That Fergie bloke was just dead lucky I guess.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

The problem with United is that they can finish outside of top four and players will still want to play for them. We finish outside of top 4 and players will swerve. It's the 'brand' pull that will keep them afloat for a while. Arsenal will probably fall once Wenger takes his exit.

 

[arminisgod]

If anyone is heading downwards is Arsenal. I fully expect Utd to be back amongst the title contenders next season.

The biggest club in the biggest city in englnd....

It's not happening

 

[roydo]

The biggest club in the biggest city in englnd....

It's not happening

Think all of that is hugely debatable these days.

Other than them being in London.