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dead_soft said:
I am not saying I live a completely ethical life or there aren't parts of my life that probably do contribute to negative aspects of society. However, suggesting you can only show a dislike for something if you are completely unblemished is, in my view, a dangerous position to take. I believe you are doing it to shut down criticism rather than actually engaging with the issue.
I have a direct emotional relationship to the club and, for better or worse, it does shape parts of my character and I feel uncomfortable with it being a vehicle for Usmanov. Even more so when he is being hailed as some wonder being for maybe putting money into the club.
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This is an incredibly high moral stand and one must accept your ( clearly ) deeply held principles.

For me , well I guess I'm more pragmatic.

Everton have been held back far too long and I'm sick of it.

Provided we are not funded by someone who has been convicted of a serious crime I say take the money and enjoy the ride.
 
Whilst all very exciting and that, if you distil this down, a company that him and Moshiri control have agreed a (modest in their world), naming rights for FF. A welcome increase in our commercial revenue, FFP and all that.

But the leap from that, to him extraditing himself from owning 30% of Arsenal to get fully behind us is a huge one.

Unless he has smoothed the path for that to happen already, I cant see him doing it any time soon.
 
Usmanov cannot invest in us as he holds shares in Arsenal. If he sold his shares in Arsenal he could then invest in us but he couldn't throw loads of cash at us because of FFP. The days of owners throwing cash into clubs has stopped if he were to use his companies to sponser Everton's training ground or shirt etc then the authorities would be all over it as dodgy. However as he doesn't own any part of Everton at present it would appear less suspicious if his companies invested money into everton . Perhaps this is a prelude to him becoming an investor - he puts in money now as an outsider. The club benefits by showing a greater income which will benefit future years FFP. When he eventually does come on board there would be no need to breach FFP by excessive investments as it would have been taken care of before he came on board
 

roydo said:
Whilst all very exciting and that, if you distil this down, a company that him and Moshiri control have agreed a (modest in their world), naming rights for FF. A welcome increase in our commercial revenue, FFP and all that.

But the leap from that, to him extraditing himself from owning 30% of Arsenal to get fully behind us is a huge one.

Unless he has smoothed the path for that to happen already, I cant see him doing it any time soon.
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Agreed. I think there is a lot of "1+1 = 3" maths going on here. Nevertheless, this is a huge positive for Everton, Just the fact that this backdoor investment is going on right out in the open is likely to shake a few cages and ruffle the feathers of some big turkeys out there.
Interesting times, indeed.
 
roydo said:
Whilst all very exciting and that, if you distil this down, a company that him and Moshiri control have agreed a (modest in their world), naming rights for FF. A welcome increase in our commercial revenue, FFP and all that.

But the leap from that, to him extraditing himself from owning 30% of Arsenal to get fully behind us is a huge one.

Unless he has smoothed the path for that to happen already, I cant see him doing it any time soon.
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He's played a blinder here either way. If he does want to come here then he's helped us out a bit with a view towards starting on a better foot if he does come here. If he doesn't want to come here then he's put some more publicized pressure on Kroenke and got the Arsenal fans and media talking about the Arsenal situation again and helped out his mate.
 
"hhmmmm, what the hell has that pesky Uzbek just done?"
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jazzy said:
This is an incredibly high moral stand and one must accept your ( clearly ) deeply held principles.

For me , well I guess I'm more pragmatic.

Everton have been held back far too long and I'm sick of it.

Provided we are not funded by someone who has been convicted of a serious crime I say take the money and enjoy the ride.
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I'd go one step further if they were competent and they could guarantee the league title or 3 then I'm going to gloss over anything, bit like in this sketch:

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&so...4zMQWY&usg=AFQjCNGcTv019Lk4VHPfTzdg30YTPM9MWw

I'd leave it to Eitc to try and restore our tarnished reputation...

:p
 
Eggsyblueskin said:
I don't think he has given up on Arsenal, in fact I think Moshiri taking us over is a deliberate ploy to increase pressure on Kroenke. Imagine if Moshiri ,his close business partner, can raise us from the doldrums that would vindicate their model for running Arsenal. Even better if it can be done with Usmanov tacitly and legally adding some financial support. It would at the very least place the current Arsenal board on the back foot.
All good for us like.
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This is what rs have been telling me but they finished off with the theory that Moshri will leave us and go into the sunset at arsenal.
 

roydo said:
Whilst all very exciting and that, if you distil this down, a company that him and Moshiri control have agreed a (modest in their world), naming rights for FF. A welcome increase in our commercial revenue, FFP and all that.

But the leap from that, to him extraditing himself from owning 30% of Arsenal to get fully behind us is a huge one.

Unless he has smoothed the path for that to happen already, I cant see him doing it any time soon.
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Today, people have been making huge assumptions.
 

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