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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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Angelgabriel said:
this thread keeps getting bumped about 'them' when we're not very good.
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Because the thread is called 'Fears of witch - hunt against Liverpool FC' a thread where we can come on and post about them, the beauts!

There are plenty of other threads available to have a pop at us.
 
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Angelgabriel said:
When and where have I mentioned about us getting beat by Chelsea 5-0? That was a shocker and no one in their right mind is going to take that attitude to such a bad defeat. I mentioned the one a couple years back, the one where Terry scored a last minute goal near the end of the season, and most of ours seemed to be quite happy over it!! I'm very critical of our club, our support, our Manager, Bolasie. Didn't realise most of my postings have been on this thread, but it's a bone of contention of mine at the moment, the way things are mapping out for us, that this thread keeps getting bumped about 'them' when we're not very good. Not least when some of its totally untrue. If your looking back over my posting history, you'll see the almost slanderous remarks regarding Tony Barrett, a relation of mine' by Dave K, he apologised, so no probs but something so wrong shouldn't have been posted in the 1st place. The way I see it, if it's wrong or untrue, I will question. Again, a question you seem to be avoiding, regarding our fans and support, what have I said that's coherently wrong?
If we are flying in the League and our fans are still willing to sacrifice League position for them not winning, it's only natural when we're as bad as we are now that that support is going to wain. If we're flying and the over riding feeling is of them not winning, what's the point in all of this? Wanting them to get beat is just rivalry, wanting them to get beat at our expense is madness.
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You're fooling no one with your claim that you're an Evertonian, why do you keep bothering? lol
 
Angelgabriel said:
When and where have I mentioned about us getting beat by Chelsea 5-0? That was a shocker and no one in their right mind is going to take that attitude to such a bad defeat. I mentioned the one a couple years back, the one where Terry scored a last minute goal near the end of the season, and most of ours seemed to be quite happy over it!! I'm very critical of our club, our support, our Manager, Bolasie. Didn't realise most of my postings have been on this thread, but it's a bone of contention of mine at the moment, the way things are mapping out for us, that this thread keeps getting bumped about 'them' when we're not very good. Not least when some of its totally untrue. If your looking back over my posting history, you'll see the almost slanderous remarks regarding Tony Barrett, a relation of mine' by Dave K, he apologised, so no probs but something so wrong shouldn't have been posted in the 1st place. The way I see it, if it's wrong or untrue, I will question. Again, a question you seem to be avoiding, regarding our fans and support, what have I said that's coherently wrong?
If we are flying in the League and our fans are still willing to sacrifice League position for them not winning, it's only natural when we're as bad as we are now that that support is going to wain. If we're flying and the over riding feeling is of them not winning, what's the point in all of this? Wanting them to get beat is just rivalry, wanting them to get beat at our expense is madness.
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You are correct, the liverpool thread shouldn't mention liverpool at all and we should all talk about where we are going on holiday instead eh?

FFS at least put a credible defence in here, literally you log onto an everton forum and post in the liverpool thread.

oh and side point here, your responses don't even sound like you are a blue, they are far too long winded and circumnavigating any point that you are in fact a kopite lurking.
 
Ashtonian said:
You are correct, the liverpool thread shouldn't mention liverpool at all and we should all talk about where we are going on holiday instead eh?

FFS at least put a credible defence in here, literally you log onto an everton forum and post in the liverpool thread.

oh and side point here, your responses don't even sound like you are a blue, they are far too long winded and circumnavigating any point that you are in fact a kopite lurking.
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Ash fanta scruffing them here ;)
 
Angelgabriel said:
When and where have I mentioned about us getting beat by Chelsea 5-0? That was a shocker and no one in their right mind is going to take that attitude to such a bad defeat. I mentioned the one a couple years back, the one where Terry scored a last minute goal near the end of the season, and most of ours seemed to be quite happy over it!! I'm very critical of our club, our support, our Manager, Bolasie. Didn't realise most of my postings have been on this thread, but it's a bone of contention of mine at the moment, the way things are mapping out for us, that this thread keeps getting bumped about 'them' when we're not very good. Not least when some of its totally untrue. If your looking back over my posting history, you'll see the almost slanderous remarks regarding Tony Barrett, a relation of mine' by Dave K, he apologised, so no probs but something so wrong shouldn't have been posted in the 1st place. The way I see it, if it's wrong or untrue, I will question. Again, a question you seem to be avoiding, regarding our fans and support, what have I said that's coherently wrong?
If we are flying in the League and our fans are still willing to sacrifice League position for them not winning, it's only natural when we're as bad as we are now that that support is going to wain. If we're flying and the over riding feeling is of them not winning, what's the point in all of this? Wanting them to get beat is just rivalry, wanting them to get beat at our expense is madness.
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Fair enough mate. What game are you referring to that Terry got a last minute winner? I think it's just a bit coincidental in the Liverpool thread (so the one most frequently read by RAWKITE) you make such accusations. But go on, I'll bite and play along, referring to this post;

"I actually got into a few disagreements couple years back, as I asked a few Blues in The Valentine in Aintree when we got beat by Chelsea and most seemed to be happy about it, I asked if they'd rather us finish in the top 4 and them win the League or fail on both counts."

What season was this that Terry scored a late winner against us that they too were going for the league win? Did Evertonians really celebrate? Which Evertonians were they?

Essentially did any of this happen? Because I have no recollection of John Terry scoring a winning goal against Everton (though happy to be proved wrong if you supply the details) never mind in a game that was damaging to LFC winning the title. Or are you confusing this with LFC fans being delighted when Steven Gerrard made a costly error for Drogba to score to prevent Manchester United winning the title?

As for
"Again, a question you seem to be avoiding, regarding our fans and support, what have I said that's coherently wrong?"

I am not avoiding any issue here and will happily comment on any evidence you can provide that Evertonians were happy that John Terry scored a winning goal against us for damaging Liverpool's title challenge. I can't really challenge your evidence as it appears to be circumstantial at best or in all likelihood the even never happened.

So my question for you. If you are you are an Evertonian;
a) Can you provide evidence for said game where Terry scores the winner
b) If you cannot why are you lying about our fans in the Liverpool thread on a forum?

If a kopite:
A) As above
b) Haven't you got better things to be doing than lying about Evertonians to make yourself feel important. And secondly if you have to make evidence up to illustrate your point, is it not indicative of a lack of wider evidence to support your thesis that Evertonians are obsessed with LFC?
 

catcherintherye said:
What season was this that Terry scored a late winner against us that they too were going for the league win? Did Evertonians really celebrate? Which Evertonians were they?
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It was this one...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/26202633

I remember being gutted at that one because 4th place was very much still on for us at that point, as it was months later when we beat Arsenal at Goodison. As you said 99.9% of Evertonians wouldn't have been happy that Terry had scored that.
 
Angelgabriel said:
This is what I said

That's the spirit. Every level of our club displays this defeatist attitude. As fans, we could change this. How do you expect us to change on the pitch, when even the fans take this attitude. Maybe, just maybe, if we were a little more positive it may translate down to pitch level.

So if we support the team a little better, spread a bit of positivity, it may translate down into the pitch. You said it works the other way round. So we gotta be winning for you to support them. Not rocket science.
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Good idea. Let's be a bit optimistic folks.

Speaking of positivity, have you booked your champions parade bus yet this season? And don't forget to order the Premier League Champions 2016/17 t-shirts as well. Just to remind you of the design:

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